we can haz sticky?

 

So I just passed the 60K mark - what oil do you recommend I use? Dino? Synthetic? What brands are good?

Sorry, couldn't resist ...

 

So I just passed the 60K mark - what oil do you recommend I use? Dino? Synthetic? What brands are good?

Sorry, couldn't resist ...

I like Crisco or Extra Virgin olive..........:rotfl:

 

I use Royal Purple 5W-30 and have had no problems, they say that you can go longer without having to change your oil but I still go at the usual 3,000 that I always have.

 

Stick it please.


Thanks Ron.

 

Highly stickworthy and possibly mandatory reading before joining.

This link is an eyeful - maybe add it? www.bescaredracing.com - /sti/oil/filters/ Someone went to a lot of trouble dissecting oil filters.

 

Highly stickworthy and possibly mandatory reading before joining.

This link is an eyeful - maybe add it? www.bescaredracing.com - /sti/oil/filters/ Someone went to a lot of trouble dissecting oil filters.

There are these as well:

Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources
Armand's Subaru Impreza Oil Filter Comparison
LesabreT.com's Oil filter write up..
Oil filter comparison, 4 top brand oil filters cut up and compared. - NASIOC

Flow and filtering ability are key with choosing a filter but most often overlooked is the proper bypass valve psi.

 

valvoline synthetic. comes with a 300,000 mile engine guarantee as well as long as your mods are professionally installed.


i only know this becuiase i am a valvoline employee. five years now



any way, independent lab testing proves that our oil has 8X wear pretection than Mobil 1 and im sorry royal purple, but your oil is in the same class as our conventional oil. no not semi synthetic, conventional!!

granted thats still 3X better wear protection than mobil 1.


valvoline was the first company to produce a oil for use in a motor. the first locomotives were lubricated with valvoline base stock




all in all yes i do work for valvoline, but i have done my research, and so have they. they were the first in the buisness and are still at the top of the market.




so when it comes to the question," what oil do i use?" just ask jay lenno

i guarantee he will tell you his garage filled with supercars contains not a drop of oil other than VALVOLINE



does that help?

 

valvoline synthetic. comes with a 300,000 mile engine guarantee as well as long as your mods are professionally installed. i only know this becuiase i am a valvoline employee. five years now

any way, independent lab testing proves that our oil has 8X wear pretection than Mobil 1 and im sorry royal purple, but your oil is in the same class as our conventional oil. no not semi synthetic, conventional!!

granted thats still 3X better wear protection than mobil 1.

valvoline was the first company to produce a oil for use in a motor. the first locomotives were lubricated with valvoline base stock

all in all yes i do work for valvoline, but i have done my research, and so have they. they were the first in the buisness and are still at the top of the market.

so when it comes to the question," what oil do i use?" just ask jay lenno

i guarantee he will tell you his garage filled with supercars contains not a drop of oil other than VALVOLINE

does that help?

Valvoline is a great company and makes a great oil but your opinion of course is going to be biased. Any links to data? I mean Amsoil employee/dealers are going to make their product seem like its the cats meow too. AMSOIL - Comparative Motor Oil Testing
I personally go by UOA's on my personal vehicle to help me choose an oil and let me know if its doing its job.

Blackstone Labs
Oil Analyzers, Inc. - Oil Analysis, Oil Testing Services

 

< recently switched to Valvoline Synth from M1.

 

I have switched to Valvoline also.

 

you wont be dissapointed, your motor runs cooler, oils stays cleaner, and i personally grad 1-3 miles per gallon

 

i have been sending my samples to oil analyzers, inc. as well for about 60k now.


i am not sure the name of the lab that did the testing between valvoline, mobil 1, penzoil, royal purple, castrol, mystery oil, and a few others, but i will get with my market manager sometime this week to see if he still has the spreadsheet of the analysis and all the data availiable to him, if not at least the labs name whom conducted the reasearch. i do know it was conducted over a 2 year period and was funded by the socioty of automotive engineers, so in tern it was an extensive test with in depth results.

i will do my best to hunt down the information and come up with something to post

 

i only get paid 12 bux an hour after 5 years with the company, believe me, im not upselling the product for the company. haha..

i just have my personal experience and that lab test that i will try to get linked to me


but all in all, the warranty is FREE as long as you sign up before 75k on your vehicle, parts are professionally installed, and you get your oil changed every 4k. the store logs it for you, but if you decide to change your own oil, you can go online, type in the oils upc code, and it verifys that you bought the oil, and loggs a change for you, and you have three strikes, say you miss a change, or go somewhere else for once. guarantee still valid!


300,000 miles, any oil related failure gets you a BRAND NEW( not used) motor, rental car, and installation costs oin valvoline

 

camt bash that

 

Still waiting for the valvoline charts/spreadsheets......

 

millers oil best u can buy now

 

The XFS are not beyond MB229.1 even though we're almost into 2011. The XF are MB229.5 and ACEA A3 -- great. However, they are generally unavailable where most people on the forum actually shop.

 

ive always used Quaker state and ive never had any issues..

 

I've got 52k on 4qts of Mobil1 0w30 and 1qt of Lucas's Synthetic Oil Stabilizer with a K&N Gold Oil Filter. I should get an oil analysis. I don't have any consumption between my 5k Oil change intervals (3k during race season)

 

I USED to use Lucas in my oil at one point like that Kev.... But if you change it every 3K.... no need. I did an oil analysis a while back (one with/one without) about 10K miles inbetween and there was no difference. Snake oil in my eyes since then.


Just sayin

 

I was using castrol GTX for a while in my 2004 STi and Blackstone told me I could extend my O.C.I. beyond 3500 miles...this leads me to believe that your choice of oil should be dictated by what kind of abuse you put on the car, as I was doing mostly highway/commuting driving. If I were doing racing or modifying the car heavily, I'm sure their recommendation would have been different.

I don't have time to do my own maintenance anymore, so I trust a reputable dealership and change my oil regularly, but I think for most cars that 3k number on synthetic oil is about 150% more conservative than it needs to be. I would probably start at 4500 miles and see what Blackstone said if I were using a premium synthetic such as Redline.

 

Timdog! Good to see you!
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Thanks, I was looking around at the forums regarding the release of the "new" 2011 imprezas and figured I'd make a few cameo posts.

 

63K miles on my 2006 Impreza TR. From 3rd oil change up now always using Mobile 1. Engine performing and sounds good.

 

After doing some research I have decided on using Motul 8100 5w-30 oil for my car but I see they offer a few different choices and not sure I understand what is what. I see an Eco-nergy, XClean, Xmax, etc..

Here is some info I found on each, appreciate any help.

- 8100 X-cess 5W40: 100% synthetic engine oil, specifically designed for powerful and recent cars fitted with high displacement engines, gasoline, Direct injection turbo Diesel and catalytic converters. Numerous car maker approvals make this product multipurpose especially recommended when the car is under warranty. Suitable for leaded or unleaded gasoline, Diesel fuels and LPG. ACEA A3 / B3 / B4. API SL / CF. Approval by VW 502 00 / 505 00, BMW ‘Long Life’, PORSCHE, Mercedes Benz 229.3.

- 8100 Eco-nergy 5W30: 100% synthetic engine oil, provides outstanding lubricating properties such as wear and high temperature resistance and controlled oil consumption. Fuel Economy Engine Oil especially designed for recent engines, powered by turbo Diesel direct injection or gasoline engines, designed to use low friction and low HTHS (High Temperature High Shear) viscosity oil. API SL/CF, ACEA A1/B1 or A5/B5. Maker's Approval. Anti-oxydation, Anti-wear, Anti-corrosion, Anti-foam properties.

- 8100 X-Max 5W30: High power Gasoline and Diesel engines. 100% Synthetic, Ester based. Lubricant especially designed for flexible drain intervals for BMW gasoline and diesel engines when a BMW Long Life-01 approved oil is required or Mercedes-Benz gasoline and diesel engines type 646, 647, 648 et 271… when MB calls for MB 229.5 engines oils. API: SL/CF ACEA: A3/B4. BMW LL-01, MB 229.3, 229.5, VW 502.00-505.00

- 8100 X-Clean 5W40 C3: 100% Synthetic Gasoline & Diesel lubricant for EURO IV eingines. Lubricant specially designed for last generation cars, powered by turbo Diesel direct injection or gasoline engines, EURO IV emission regulation compliant, requiring an ACEA C3 engine oil, high HTHS(>3.5mPas.s) viscosity and “Mid SAPS” with reduced content of suphated ash (=0.8%), phosphorus (0.07=x=0.09%) and sulphur (=0.3%).
Suitable for any type of Diesel or gasoline engines calling for ACEA A3/B3 or A3/B4 lubricants.
ACEA C3 lubricants achieve extended drain intervals managed by vehicles computer on board. ACEA: A3/B4/C3
API: SM/CF
Approvals: BMW LL04, MB 229.31, Porsche, VW502.00-505.00
Recommendations: Renault/Nissan-Fiat-Kia-Suzuki-Ssangyong.

- 8100 X-LITE 0W30: 100% synthetic, ester-based. Good fuel efficiency. Specially designed for powerful and recent cars, diesel direct injection or gasoline engines and catalytic converters.
Recommendated for Audi TT and S3 and all W engines from Volkswagen group. ACEA:A3/B4, API: SL/CF. VW 502.00/505.00/503.01 – MB 229.3

 

After doing some research I have decided on using Motul 8100 5w-30 oil for my car but I see they offer a few different choices and not sure I understand what is what. I see an Eco-nergy, XClean, Xmax, etc..

You have a 2011. Follow the manufacturer's specifications to the letter. What oil does Subaru say to use? An API SL? CF? What viscosity?

Follow those recommendations.

If it were my car I'd look at the two ACEA A3 choices above, and probably use either or prefer the one that meets LL-04. You are still under warranty though, so you should follow the Subaru spec. specifically. Keep all receipts.

 

Unless there are other viscosities specified (there usually are a range) then I don't think any of the oils you have listed meet your requirements.

 

Ya, I noticed that but I read a good amount of people use it for a wrx. Oh well, the more I think about it I just want a good oil I can get without much hassle (advance, walmart, etc..) at a reasonable price since I plan on following the 3750 mile interval at least for the first few changes then up to 5000 miles. All this reading about oil is enough to make you crazy

 

Please check with your dealer. Subaru has changed the requirements for the 2011 turbo models. They now require full synthetic 5W-30 oil changed every 7500 miles. I wrote Subaru to verify, and that is what they said. The owners manual were printed before the requirement was changed.

 

I did read about that and called my dealer. Talked with the service manager and he said that is the maximum interval for the car under normal operating conditions. However, he said if it was my car I wouldn't go past 5000 miles. I am still unsure about what brand to use. I've used Mobil 1 5w-30 in my Frontier with no problems but after some research it doesn't seem like a good choice in a wrx. Shell Rotella T6 has plenty of good info behind it but I only see 5w-40 available. I would hate to pay top dollar for Subaru oil from my local dealer because they are pricks.

 

BUMP THIS....Shell Rotella T6 is good stuff. To add a bit, the only oil I've heard shearing on a turbo car is Mobil1 5w-30 down to a 20wt. I guess it really depends how you drive, how often you change your oil, etc. I know Mobil1 has their 5w-40 as well, but I've never used it. I usually stick to either Rotella T6 5w-40 or Valvoline full synth with no issues...
2005 WRX, 62K, no issues.

 

As a guy that makes his living advising people in the oil industry, including people such as the King of Saudi Arabia, any stories of a particular oil causing engine failures is ridiculous. The oil isn't doing it. That particular engine may have had issues that caused it to fail earlier than others. Tranny fluid or brake fluid or any of those others are a different story, but engine oil is engine oil. Synthetic is better than conventional, but in general, no oil if properly maintained/replaced will ever cause a failure. They're all too similar to ever blame one for an issue.

But what do I know, I've just made a quarter million a year+ for years doing this job. Listen to gossip or listen to somebody that knows.

 

I would have to agree with this. I also wish I made half as much as you.

After some research when I was looking into oils I came to this conclusion. The wrx and sti tend to consume oil when driven hard if you use a 5w-30 energy conserving oil. People end up not checking the oil, run the car hard while low on oil, engine has failure, they run to the forums and bad mouth that oil.

 

Well I have a hard time believing that mistakes are never made . Mobil 1 5w30 was an oil,for a while,known for shearing early. It's a mass produced product like everything else. I'm sure quality control sometimes can lack or a "mistake" is made in the oil additive package. Not saying the product still does shear down but this is not just a Subaru thing. But your absolutely right,the are other variables that need to be looked at before just blaming the oil for engine failure. For one if your not running a quality filter than even the worlds best motor oil isn't going to save you. If you want to know if your oil (and filter) is working for you then spend $20 on a UOI (Used Oil Analysis).

 

I ran Mobil 1 stock, and stage 1. I stopped using it at stage 2 as it was no longer up to the task. Will I run it in my current WRX with it's mods: No.

Would I run it in a stock WRX: I would have, but I've since found an oil I'm very happy with that gets excellent reviews.

Will I continue to run it in my 4runner: Absolutely.

 

I look at it this way, I'm a castrol fan.. always have been and never had any issues with it.. in various applications (even air cooled.. which is hell on oil) however.. that said.. Porsche spec's mobile1 for their machines... and those engineers aren't messing about. So.. as its always up to the consumer to decide how to spend their money.. Mobil1 is still a good product. My wrx at 46K mi now (in case you guys haven't noticed I rack up mileage like highschool kids get pimples) and has had mobil1 in it since its first oil change. I'm all factory for now, looking to go stage1 pretty soon.. but no further. For me and most others (as stated above) mobil1 should be just fine.