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2022 WRX review, from an STI owner. **UPDATE 2023 PURCHASE REVIEW post 114 page 6***

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UPDATE!! I PURCHASED A 2023. HERE'S MY REVIEW AFTER OWNERSHIP.

^^^^^^ ALSO SEE POST ^^^^^

I have a 2018 STI, and have owned a 2015 STI and 2013 WRX. A couple days ago, I drove a 2022 WRX. I couldn't find a lot of testimonial comparisons between the VA STI and the VB WRX. Also, to put this in completely relevant context, I'm 37 years old with a toddler, so my expectations probably differ significantly from some of the younger members. This will be thorough. Here are my thoughts:

Opinions on everything are subjective, but to me, the car is mostly ugly. Yet, I like 3/4ths of it. The WRX has never looked that great and my 13 WRX was especially no exception. It looked like an angry squinty mule, and I loved it. My current 18 STI is probably the most handsome WRX/STI I've owned, but it also looks awkward from several angles, even with the wing gone. The 2022 WRX is not Subaru's attempt at beauty like the 2022 BRZ. That was not the intention here. The front end looks aggressive, and the side cladding gives a mean rugged impression. Marketing: You won. Again. However, the rear end is just offensive. Every single time I look at it, I can't bring myself to accept it. Who signed off on this?

The WRX I drove was white, which is an unacceptable color (for me) given the aforementioned features. I was up front with the salesman about this. I didn't want to give him a false impression I was going to buy that particular car, but when he looked up my past purchases, including our most recent 22 Forester, he took me serious as a potential customer. We order all of our cars, and the only colors I would choose on the VB are gray, gray, gray, gray, or gray. But maybe, just maybe, black, if it wasn't for me not giving two shits and using an automatic car wash, with brushes.

As for driving, as many reviewers have commented, I went in expecting to dislike the car, but ended up really liking it:

I wasn't eager to start it up, since I'd heard from so many journalists how lacking the sound was. I can't understand what they are talking about, because it was just as loud as my STI on startup, if not louder. If anything, it was louder than I wanted it to be, with the four-cylinder loud warmup cabin drone/buzz.

To say this car has any iconic "boxer rumble" is a huge stretch of the imagination, after owning three EJ's. To me, it has a typical four cylinder "performance" sound, with a maybe just a little more grunt. Once warmed up and on the road, enjoyed the sounds overall from the cabin, and couldn't care less about how terrible it probably sounded from the exterior. (As with any lifeless high pitched FA. Sorry.)

The gear box was stiff and precise, but felt less connected and engaging than my STI. The shifter sat pretty high, even with the factory short-throw and STI knob. (An absolute must with any WRX) It did, however, need less finesse to upshift and downshift, making it easier to drive. I like it better than my 2013 WRX, but less than my 2015 and 2018 STI's. It wasn't as connected, but far from sloppy.

The clutch on the car felt much softer than my STI. The pedal was lighter, but it had a nice amount of tension and the engagement point was about mid-way though the pedal, and easy to feel. Between the clutch and the shifter, I had to pay far less attention to the car then I do my STI, which made it a lot easier to drive. After living with a VA STI since 2015, this was a big plus for me.

The car had plenty of power, but from the reviews, I expected it to come on quicker. It had less turbo lag, but you could never mistake it for anything but a turbocharged four cylinder. Once boost kicked in, the acceleration continued throughout the rev range. Unlike others, I didn't feel like the car needed a higher RPM. The WRX/STI has never been known for a high rev range.

At lower speeds, there didn't seem to be as many hiccups between the transmission and engine. Just to entertain myself, I gave the WRX the beans from a stand-still, and it bogged and jerked to life at its own sluggish awkward first gear pace. It just further proved these cars aren't meant to be launched without significant abuse.

Overall, there was more mid-range power to play with, leading me to have to think less about when to shift. I didn't feel like I had to micromanage the car as much as my STI.

I liked the ride quality. The WRX felt firm, but not jarring like I'm used to. It was more springy, instead of slapping into every road imperfection. The suspension didn't feel as smooth and refined as other journalists made it seem, and you would never mistake this for a Camry. It paired well with the steering, which had enough tension at lower speeds, but allowed you to loosen your grip on the highway. The steering felt very direct. It was more loose than my STI, but the WRX would still snap in any direction you wanted it to.

By contrast, I have to always keep a firm grip on the wheel in my STI and make constant corrections on the highway. The WRX didn't completely let me fall asleep at higher speeds, but it also didn't want to constantly disagree with me at 70 mph. It was nice to be able to not have to brace myself for every bump and to relax my hands a little. It was again an aspect that provided plenty of fun, but demanded less attention.

There is a whole segment of people in the VB facebook community (I know...) who declare this car as just as capable of a performer as the STI. The car feels lighter on its feet, no doubt, but it doesn't have that dug in planted feel when you push it through a sweeping turn. It was definitely plenty of fun, tossable, and eager to take accelerating turns, but it didn't feel nearly as confident.

I don't know which is quicker in a straight line in 2nd or 3rd gear, which are the only two gears I use to push the car a bit hard. The two cars delivery power slightly different, so it's hard to tell. Both are mid range happy, but the WRX seems to have a wider range both up top and down low in the rev range.

But, there is absolutely no mistake when I mash the pedal on curves or an onramp, the STI feels drastically more glued to the road. It gets heavier, tighter, and has noticeably less body roll. I did NOT feel this in the WRX, no matter how much the fanboys say it's better. I have no idea why people feel on the internet are so self conscious about how others view their cars' performance. I tried to keep my analysis comes from a pretty neutral place as someone who is very interested in the VB for a potential near future purchase. That, and I just don't care about which car is better or faster. The WRX absolutely may feel more fun to some, maybe even me, but by no means did I think it was the same animal.

Faster or not, I really didn't want to take this car back to the lot. I took a lot of time with the WRX... probably too much... to see how it did under normal in-town driving, cruising on the highway (it was still noisy despite the reviews), and admittedly tossing it around/romping it through some corners. I took my time to make sure I did plenty of up shifts and down shifts. I even mashed the brakes a few times to see how it did, which was plenty adequate. If you're running out of brakes and you're not on the track, you need to quit driving like a reckless dirtbag.

The WRX I test drove already had 100 miles on it, so I didn't feel like a complete jerk, but I took a pretty bold amount of time with it. Sorry, but that's what you get if you want me as a (likely) potential 6th Subaru buyer in ten years. I never smelled clutch or brakes, so it could have been worse. This was an informed consumer drive, not a joy ride.

I parked the car and spent about ten minutes going over every little detail. I didn't get the "more premium" vibe everyone else talked about. Granted, my car has a Recaro package and this was a mid-level trim. We would be in the market for a limited trim, which has a few minor interior accents, better seats, and a Harmon Kardon stereo. (Of note, I have found seats and small differences to make a drastic difference on the look and feel of an interior, especially compared to my nearly identical base 2015 STI interior, to my Recaro 2018 STI.)

The controversial center tablet was fine. I don't get the complaints. Although, I do not recommend trying to figure out the climate control settings while on the middle of the highway. The heated seat menu wasn't as damning as journalists made it out to be. The vents seemed higher quality, although the one to the far left doesn't have that much adjustability to bring it in closer to your body or face. It just kind of blows down your left arm.

I strongly dislike the carbon fiber patterned door handle and steering wheel inserts. I was happy when that went away from my 2015 STI to my 2018 STI. I don't understand the complaints about piano black. Clean your car, stop spilling your drink on it, or maybe just don't be so anal. Either way, the carbon fiber "not even trying anymore" stamped look is even worse than the "this is a really bad impression of real carbon fiber" look. You don't need carbon fiber in your ***king cabin anyway...

The doors and door handles felt solid. The buttons throughout the car had a very impressive silent non-plasticky quality feel. The cubby in front of the shifter has plenty of room for your phone, and is much larger than my STI or the ridiculously tiny area in our Forester. The cup holders seemed fine, although I like the pull-shut cover on my STI. (Surprise though... I never use it.) The most depressing part about the interior was the coin tray insert behind the shifter where you can tell the drive mode and diff settings would have been on my inevitable 2023 STI. (and I do mean inevitable)

The visibility was great, which is what my wife and I really love about modern Subarus, and one of the things that brings us back. That, and the same familiar minimalist cabin setup we enjoy. The formula just works for us. I sit up high, and the hood slopes in such a way where I could really see down in front of the car a lot more. Yet, the dash doesn't have the nice digital center cluster, so up top is just looks kind of flat and lifeless. Luckily, you can see both sharp hood contour lines centering the large bulge from the hood scoop. It looks pretty mean from the driver's seat.

The steering wheel is leather wrapped and feels decent. The buttons have a quality feel. This model did not have a sunroof or have power seats that the Limited trim comes with. There was plenty of headroom and the seats still had adequate adjustability to easily get into a comfortable driving position. The arm rest on the door is nicely angled at an incline toward the steering wheel, which provided a comfortable resting position. People complain about the center armrests that have always been for looks only on the WRX/STI models I've owned. Maybe I'm used to it, but I didn't even think about it until I parked the car and looked everything over.

I didn't bother even turning on the stereo. The stereos in our WRX, (2) STI's, and former Crosstrek were mid 90's terrible, so I expected nothing different. The Limited trim comes with the HK system, which we're really pleased with equipped in our Touring trim Forster. The gauges are nice... but the only problem is they're identical to my STI. It would be nice to have something different to look at for the next five years, so I'm hopelessly crossing my fingers there will be a change for 2023. Apparently they didn't expect 2018-2021 VA STI owners to buy the 22 WRX... or did they?

For whatever reason, the car felt smaller than my STI, when sitting in the driver's seat. Even while driving. I know this isn't actually the case. This made the car feel a little more like a compact, and possibly cheaper as a result. I still feel like a lot of that will change with the top trim level, and a slight legal tint on the windows. By contrast, the back seats and rear passenger's compartment felt huge. It was like being in two different vehicles. There were 2 USB chargers back there, but the plastic trim pieces on the doors felt noticeable cheaper. This would be a problem I'd never have to live with.

Overall, I really really really liked the car. I was expecting at best to view it as tolerable for my next car. When I equip all of the options, it will fit the bill to be a really fun car I can transfer my car seat to, get better gas mileage, and be more comfortable for my 30 minute commute to work. The 2022 WRX is by far an easier car to operate, but it still feels like a very capable performing vehicle. I honestly think I would possibly enjoy it more than my STI's, since the car demands less focus to drive perfectly, and although you still feel every bump in the road, it doesn't punch you in the kidneys.

As I said before, the warranty in our STI is up next Spring, and we plan on ordering whatever we want in January or February. The cash is there, but I like my cars to come in when it isn't constantly frigid outside, and the timeline should put delivery in for March or April. The WRX is the only car that completely checks all of the boxes for us, so we're not considering much else. I've really enjoyed every Subaru and WRX/STI I've had so far, so why change? (Aside from one long story suspension issue Subaru made right...)

I was pleasantly surprised with how impressed I was with this car. If we do purchase a WRX, every single box checked for the options and trim we want, will put a dark gray metallic at $40,000. That includes completely unnecessary items like factory mud flaps, and a beloved front lip. That's a bit pricey for a WRX, but I'll be in my 40's when we get rid of the car. Amenities and warrantied factory add-ons become increasingly pleasing to me as I get older. In the dark gray, I think it will be just mature enough to be an acceptable "cool dad" car. It's definitely a strong possibility.

On the other side of the coin... I have an acquaintance who says he can get me a 23 Type-R when they come in for only (lol but reality) $5,000 in markup. He's going to call me if they do have one en route. (In any color but than bright blue) If his unlikely promise turns out to be true, it would be hard to pass up, would it not? That wing in my 40's though... eh. I'm not counting on it. No heated seats? I think I would probably keep that $5,000 in our savings and drive something in which I wouldn't be embarrassed to drive to a future parent-teacher meeting.

Thanks for reading.
 
#95 ·
Not trying to make you have further regrets, but honestly $5,000 is such a small price to pay for the difference. The major saving grace is you got the performance package. I really wished they offered something like that for the VB. Bigger brakes and Bilstein struts.

As far as the wing goes, I did a trunk swap on my 18 and loved it without the wing. I met half way in between STL and Chicago with a 2017 WRX at a body shop and they did the swap with the torsion bars for like $250. A lot of people would have done the swap their selves, but I didn't want to be stuck in a Walmart parking lot and finding out I couldn't get the torsion bars off.
 
#97 ·
I agree that the VB out of the box definitely doesn't have as much character as the STI and probably never will but there are a handful of inexpensive mods that would definitely at least bridge the gap half way there if not a little more. Steering Dampener Lockdown (this takes out the first half inch or more of play in the steering and really tightens it up) Group N Transmission Mount, Pitch Stop Mount, Rear Diff inserts and Whiteline shift kit (this will get rid of all the transmission play, the jerkiness in 1, 2, the jerkiness while downshifting, makes it a lot more connective) Shifter plate, shift busing, and shift stop (This will transform the gearbox, in my opinion to something better then the new type R)

If you go with a more solid pitch stop it will bring a lot more engine noise in the cabin, I personally love it. If you want to stay more oem you could get both the group N mount and group N pitch stop made by Subaru themselves. For the shift plats cobbs actually fits under the protection plate, however it is a little lighter then the others.

I also ordered a rear sway bar I am about the put on this weekend to tighten up the back just a little bit.

I was on the fence, I wanted to trade my 2022 for a 2021 sti but after the mods I mentioned I am happy with it. Plus the stories of blown ej's sketches me out and the price plus used rates are just a poor financial decision. At current prices I would fork over some more money and go strait for an M2.

Hope some of that helps.
 
#98 ·
I'm sure those things will make a difference, but then that's going to chip away at what makes it a good daily driver. I'm not trying to say I want to turn it into the STI. It's just a comparison between the two.

The steering is pretty responsive as it is. The gripe from most critics is the last of feedback. The STI was hydraulic.
 
#99 ·
There's more to feedback than hydraulic vs. electric. A good EPAS can be better than most hydraulics, case in point EPAS on mx5, type R & most porsches.

The big issue with wrx feedback is rubber & brackets. S4 steering brackets for rack, poly bushings on front control arms and the STi u-joint on steering rack (solid) instead of wrx (rubber damped) will get you steering feel on par with and possible better than STi.
 
#100 · (Edited)
At what cost? Or else, why wasn't it done from the factory?

I'll mod this car and then post another review, guys. Clearly the idea of a stock for stock comparison is uncomprehensible. All I hear from people is advice on which parts of the warranty to void to make the car up to snuff with the STI, or other competition. Just a few thousand dollars more to spend, and a couple dozen man hours to somehow manifest from a busy schedule.

Tune, tires, brakes, suspension components, wheels, shifter bushings, steering wheel bushings, engine mounts, Recaro seats for relevance to my old car, an exhaust... How about maybe a big wing and neon brake caliper covers to complete the look? What am I missing? Will someone just make me a parts list, please?
 
#105 ·
Just finished my first long road trip in my VB. My first Subi. It reminds me a lot of my 09 Si handling and steering wise, which is a good thing because I had upgraded the suspension and sway bars in the Civic. It sticks to the road and turns flat, like the WRX. I loved the Si 8K rev limit, so the 6K WRX is kind of a dissapointment. The power is good, but the VTec in ths Civic added a little bit of punch when getting on it that was fun. The turbo in the WRX is so smooth, you go faster, but don't really feel the kick. I like it, and the creature comforts and all out power are better than my old Si, but if I had been able to test drive the latest Si, this might not have been my choice, or it might have. Who knows. I'm happy enough, It gets the job done. I have a smile on my face when I drive it. The road trip was louder than it would have been in the Si, but other than that, the drive was fantastic.
 
#109 ·
Yep. From an 09 Si coupe owner myself, I couldn't agree more with your comparison between the two. I was just comparing it for the 100th time in my head this morning, and thought the exact same thing about the power delivery feel. Sure, I had a WRX in 2013, but it was a much more lively car. Cheap, but it had a lot of character.

After a lot of homework, I stopped considering the Si over the WRX. I wanted the WRX for all wheel drive commuting, even though it only snows a few days a year here. I also wanted the added power. That, and I just wanted another Subaru. I love the cabins, visibility, seating position, etc. I feel at home in one.

The cabin on my limited feels very high quality, but you're right about the noise. It's so tinny that the rain yesterday sounded more like small hail. It really smacks hard against my driver's window for some reason. I also have a very noticeable high pitched whistling sound coming from my passenger's side that starts about 70 mph. I doubt it's worth bringing it up to the dealership.

They won't do anything. I think the road noise is more noticeable in my WRX, because there's no loud exhaust noise/drone. I don't hear the motor at all when cruising. Sure it's windy and the tires growl, but I do think my ears are less fatigued at the end of my highway drives.



I hit my 1000 mile break-in yesterday. Cruise control on the highway was a big relief, since I caught myself completely by accident going 87 mph at 5am on the highway a couple days ago. That's not my style. I suppose that's a compliment to the car, considering I had no clue I was cooking that much.

The ease of highway driving between my STI and WRX is night and day. The steering weight at cruising speed is comparable to our Forester, which is a good thing. However, the wheel feels more cheap in my hand than the STI. Did they downgrade their leather? I specifically remember the leather feeling soft on my STI when I got it. Same with our 16 Crosstrek. But, our 22 Forester and this WRX feels a lot more like rubber and less like actual leather.

I punched the WRX a few times. It's odd how the car feels like it wants to rotate so much easier at daily driving lighter throttle and lower speeds than the STI, but God damn that front end plows on on-ramps when I pushed it. It starts to really want to rotate wide open when you're coming out of the turn, but mid turn/on-ramp it really pushes and rolls hard toward the front left corner.

The shifter does feel more sloppy, as others have commented, but this is easy to live with. This is one of the only cars I've owned where I don't have to baby 2nd gear shifts more than others during regular driving. Although since first gear in this car is actually usable without the constant bucking, 2nd isn't needed as much in parking lots. That's definitely a nice change.

I feel indifferent about giving it a little of the beans before I do my habitual 1,000 mile break-in oil change, but I just do. not. have the time right now. Am I being paranoid? Many say it's not necessary anymore, but I've always done it for peace of mind.

Personally I am just trying to help a fellow VB owner be happier with his purchase. 40K is a lot of money to be unsatisfied with.
I'm mostly satisfied. Just for different reasons. I've been spoiled since 2013 to always have a car being manufactured that I was fully invested in buying. This time around, the WRX was just my 'best' option from a practical standpoint. It fits my needs best, but just not all of my desires. I was really banking on a 2023 STI being offered, with adaptive suspension. We'd assumed paying $45,000 - $50,000. What a disappointment.
 
#114 · (Edited)
OK, I have 1500 miles on the clock and I just gave the car a good thrashing on a windy country road. I've had a month living with the car, and 500 miles of post break-in driving. Some of this will be my personal opinion of the car. I also added some more comparisons to the STI. Here goes.

Gray 2023 WRX Limited (six-speed manual)
(Short Throw/STI Knob/All weather mats & trunk liner/LED interior lights/Arm rest extension (waiting on)/front lip (backorder)/body side moldings (backorder)/mud flaps)
Total OTD cost with tax and title was around $40,000. (All paid in full! Yay!)

My history for relevance:
2013 premium GR WRX sedan (white)
2015 base VA STI Sedan (WRB)
2018 VA STI base Sedan - Recaro package (white/WRX trunk swap) favorite
(Pre-Subaru: 2003 Nissan Sentra Spec V/09 Civic Si coupe/ 08 350z HR 6mt)



Exterior looks 7 / 10.
The dark colors on this car combined with the sharp angles are excellent. I never thought I would say it, but I've come to love the rear end. I've had a ton of compliments on the looks and color. I like the cladding.
The car does give the appearance of sitting up a little too high for my tastes, but my backordered front lip might change that. I'm also waiting for my side moldings and window tint, which I think will improve the look even more. I think Subaru nailed it on the mud flaps.
Contrary to belief, the plastic will not fade any time soon. Our prior outdoor kept, rarely washed, Midwest heat/snow/salt exposed 2016 Crosstrek never faded, and shined right up with a quick detailer. I'm not in love with all of the reflectors and the typical mesh area where the third brake light would go. The headlights look mean. Their swivel feature and fog lights make for excellent road lighting. The auto high beams are useless.
-STI looks 7.5/10 without the wing. I think the body on the new one looks much more sharp, but I really miss the massive wheels with the perfect offset and gap, paired with those beautiful massive Brembo brakes and drilled rotors. The wheel/brake package set the car apart and let you know it was something special.

Ride quality 6 / 10.
More of my focus here is on long duration highway drives. My seats are comfortable. I have a whistling sound coming from my front passenger side at 70-80 MPH, which I doubt Subaru will ever fix. The high wind and road noise knock most of the points off of the ride quality. It's not as loud at my STI was, but it's by no means as quiet as our 22 Forester, which is also not as quiet as I would want.
Aside from that, the car soaks up bumps very well compared to the STI.

-STI Score 4/10 on highways due to tramlining, a unique to my car alignment issue, worse bump absorption, and much noisier. Any bumps or rough roadway joints were easily felt. The seats were about as comfortable. Side note: the fucking Brembo squeal made me cringe...

Ease of daily driving 7/10. (similar to ride quality)
The clutch is so much easier to engage than the STI. First gear is smooth for parking lot cruising, which is something I haven't experienced since the GR (kind of). Again, the bump absorption and the lightweight steering is welcomed here. The shifter could be a little less sloppy, but this is the first car I can ever remember owning where I can shift into second without babying it more than other gears. ALL of my other cars have had some kind of more rigid feedback from the synchronizers, making even normal daily driver shifting feel uneasy.
I wish the car had a little more grunt down low. Because it doesn't, it makes the car feel much slower and less capable than it is when daily driving.
Pedal placement is typical WRX/STI, which is great. Visibility and driving position are great, and what keeps bringing me back.
Gas mileage is still trash. 22-23 MPG compared to 19'ish in the STI. It doesn't bother me.
The steering is pretty crisp, but light, and great for highway driving.

-STI score 5/10. Smooth shifts were difficult. First gear slow roll bucking was bad. Slight bumps and inconsistencies in the road could be harsh.

Interior quality: 5/10
So this is a really mixed bag. At first glance, the limited interior looks great. The seats are comfortable and have the right amount of bolstering. The all weather mat option will probably be replaced with Weather Techs. The bullshit upcharge LED interior lights are fine. The cubby light is good. Cup holders and all are fine. The cup holder cover looked cool in the STI, but was rarely used and didn't serve much purpose for me. The leather trimmed red stitched dash pieces and arm rest look great. The gauges look OK, but the center screen looks cheap and the buzz kill comes from the nearly identical gauges to my 2018 STI. Change would have been nice.
Rattles are already present, in addition to the whistling sound. That's not good, considering it's been warm outside. Rain sounds like hail...
The HK stereo sound quality is nice. The leather on the back of the seats has withstood my three year old absolutely grinding her dirty shoes into the back of them, from her car seat. (oh well) The switches all feel good higher quality than any of my prior cars. All four windows are one-touch. The car auto-locks when you start driving. (LOCK YOUR F***ING DOORS!)
What knocked at least one point off the score was the infuriating infotainment system. I love the way the screen looks, but as I knew going into it, it's laggy and distracting. I have zero issues with the HVAC and like that setup, but my God... I'm not exaggerating when I say the success rate for Pandora working when I first hook it up is 2 out of 5. Even unplugging and replugging in my phone is usually worthless. I end up screaming at the fucking thing and have to activate Pandora on my phone (iPhone SE), while the screen continues to say "Pandora loading," or "Identifier not found" when choosing stations. Major buzz kill, and I know Subaru will do nothing about it.
Another couple pet peeves - the bright red "WRX" on the seats. I never understood why they couldn't tone down the color just a little, like my STI interior accents. Darker red looked much better. Also, the stupid plastic carbon fiber patterned door handle bezel and steering wheel cap look cheesy and childish. For me, it takes away from the cabin and it's one of the few things I would consider going aftermarket. I also can't say enough about how cheap and rubbery the visors are. Just garbage. The top of the dash is also very plain and OK. It feels lacking, but I'm used to the third display which I loved.
-STI interior quality 7.5/10. From the factory, this car felt so solid. It was even an improvement from my 2015 STI, with thicker windows, added sound deadening, no fake carbon fiber, and other touches. Rattles didn't develop until later. It looked great, especially with the third display on the dash.
The Recaro seats looked amazing. I never understood the complaints about the piano black, as I feel it made the car look a lot more mature. Mine never got overly dirty or scratched. Were people touching theirs with Crisco fingers and sand paper?
My major complaint was the total trash stereo. Just awful for a $40,000 car. Rain and wind noise were less loud, but the exhaust and road noise (no matter the tires) made the cabin louder than the WRX. I will never go without a premium sound system upgrade in a Subaru.

Sound 3/10.
I hate it. I mean I f***ing hate it, despite trying so hard to like it. To me, it has zero character. The cabin characteristics, but starting it makes me feel like a child. Every FA I've heard sounds twice as bad with an aftermarket setup. V6 muscle cars, Taurus SHO's, and maybe Hondas are about the only models that sound worse... I'm actually self conscious about the way it sounds. No balls to it. Makes it feel like a kid's car. Even without being prompted, my dad said, "Doesn't really sound much different than a Honda, does it?"
-STI 8/10 stock, 9/10 with a decent setup. I just love the way the EJ sounds. Maybe the only thing I like better is a Coyote Shelby. I remember at one point there was a rumor something similar to the S209 motor was going to be used in the new STI. There was an uproar on Nasioc, but that would have been fine by me to retain a similar sound. Gas mileage and driving characteristics be damned. It was one of my favorite parts about the car, and I enjoy listening to the sound of a good motor when I drive. Bummer.

************Performance

I really thrashed the car for the first time today on one of my favorite roads. It's a great bumpy country back road. Old school asphalt that is tarred/rocked every few years. It's a five minute mix of farm land, sweepers, slightly banked curves from steep roadway crown, woods, elevation changes, hair pins, and a few straights through low valleys, one of them complicated by two small bridges with steep transitions. It's the type of roadway the WRX and STI seem meant for.

Overall 6.5/10.
As I've said before, the WRX feels all too similar to my under powered mild mannered 09 Si during most daily driving. It's deceptive in that it makes the car feel much slower than its true capabilities.

Immediately, I noticed how much stronger the motor feels mid corner and pulling out of a turn. You can feel it pUlLiNg AwL tHu wHey 2 ReDlyNe... I felt like the car just wanted to keep screaming forward more and more, like it never wanted to let up. There was absolutely no need for more power.
The need for precision driving just wasn't there, which heightened the fun factor. What I mean is that the constant monitoring of RPM's was less stressful.
The way it soaked up bumps was amazing compared to the STI. The inconsistencies in the road didn't falter the STI, but they were prevalent and made for a more "rally" feel that was sometimes fun, but not necessary.
Suspension felt planted and steering, although it offered almost no feedback, was very direct and snappy. The car also rotates nicely and felt more neutral through a lot of the tighter turns. The rear end wanted to come around more than expected. My chief complaint with the suspension is cresting hills inspired a lot less confidence, as the car really had a lot of lift.
I could smell the brakes by the time I had to turn around and run the gauntlet back the other way. The best compliment I can give them was that they were merely adequate for public roadway aggressive driving. Pads, fluids, and maybe lines would do more than enough.
The transmission and gearbox were plenty engaging. Third gear was mostly long enough, but there were a couple times where I felt the need to shift mid corner. I never had issues hitting the limiter. The need to shift, even right up the the last point, is pretty easy to feel in my opinion. Most of the work was done in third gear, with the motor requiring few shifts into second, due to unwillingness to bog or demand higher RPM's to get out of it's own way.
I was very surprised, and it reminded me of why I enjoyed one of the abusive test drives prior to ordering.

-STI 7.5/10
Again, the sound of the motor upped the seriousness of the STI. There was more feedback to the wheel, and for the same thrashing sessions the brakes were just phenomenal. The chassis on the VA did not have the ease of wanting to rotate as much, but the way you could feel the differentials clawing through the corners was awesome.
As a daily, the clutch and gearbox were more difficult to manipulate, but when putting the STI through its paces, the engagement was more crisp and the transmission felt bulletproof.
Again, the grunt and clawing coming out of the corners was just awesome, but admittedly the following upshift after the completion of the turn did not offer the same sensation of strength of speed as the WRX. It just screamed "more more more!" when the pedal was mashed.
The STI firmly planted itself after any vertical transition. Even coming back down from them hard did not destabilize the car. I did not feel nearly as comfortable on sharp hillcrests in the WRX.
Throttle response in the WRX is more gradual, where as in the right rev range the STI wanted to push hard, but again ran out of breath at higher RPM's. The engine didn't offer the same impression of never letting up.
The STI was much more challenging to drive, but when you did it right there was a ton of reward. Both cars feel eager, but the STI just felt so much stronger and more confident.

The WRX is a lightweight stick-and-move kind of fighter. The STI is the heavyweight fighter, ready to dig in, take some punishment, and deliver a strong blow when timed right. It wanted the abuse and was ready to take it. It's the reassurance that the STI is the car meant for the track, but capable of being a daily driver. The WRX is the daily driver, capable of going to the track. (with a little brake work)

Honestly, this is probably my least favorite so far, maybe even of the six Subaru's we've owned. But, that doesn't mean it's not a great car and a good performer. It's all grown up, (kind of) similar to my current lifestyle. It fits the bill for another 5 years or 60 thousand miles, whatever comes first. My plans for now are to keep the car stock and get my fun out of it by giving it the abuse it wants, in order to feel quick and fun. If something breaks, I'm not fixing it. I already shrugged off my usual 1,000 mile break-in oil change. I plan on taking full advantage of my warranty, included in my optioned out $40,000 price tag. It's going to see frequent trips to my membership conveyor wash swirl machine, my kid is going to put her mark on the interior, and I'm going to drive it hard. I honestly think being care-free is the way I'm going to get the most sMiLeZ pUr GaLLiN out of this car.

I hope you enjoyed.

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#115 ·
Thank you for sharing a great review of your new WRX. It has its pluses and minuses like every car does. I guess we should be happy that Subaru still even makes a WRX. I'm still disappointed that there is not a new STI, but man, I get compliments every day on my car and it just feel like you're driving something special all the time.
 
#121 ·
Probably. Even if I did want to mod those things, I wouldn't want to kill the driveability by adding any vibrations or stiffness to the wheel during highway driving. The steering feel isn't like the STI, but I'm not saying I don't enjoy it at this point in my life. It's closer to our Forester than the STI. At 5 AM on the highway, or 6 PM after a 12 hour shift, I'd prefer the lighter feeling.

Every once in a while I do long for a tune and a little more power, though.

Again though, stock for stock comparison.
 
#127 ·
The brakes could also really use some work.
YES! The brakes are the biggest disappointment. On the back roads where I drive, I have no problem building speed....the issue came when I was trying to slow for the next corner.

I ended up doing pads, rotors, and fluid and it helped tremendously...but the brake feel is still not very good. Very wooden and non-linear...you have nothing in the first 1/4 of the pedal travel, then you get into the brakes. I hate that. I prefer a nice stiff brake pedal that barely moves when you press it. One that responds to pressure more than pedal movement.

The upgrades I did make the brakes adequate for the power the car makes, but if you were to tune the car more than just a OTS tune, I'd seriously consider doing a big brake kit.
 
#129 ·
The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prohibits a manufacturer for "voiding" your warranty if you mod your car or do your own maintenance. To deny a warranty claim, they would have to prove that the modification or work performed on the vehicle caused the failure.

For example, I have a tune on my car. I drove it to the dealer, AccessPort still attached, to have an airbag light looked at. Turned out I needed a new passenger seat as the airbag sensor was bad in it. No issues what so ever.

Now...if I'd have spun a bearing...I'd fully expect them to not cover that. But if the air conditioner went out, I'd expect it to be covered.

The slippery slope comes if you have a transmission failure. The dealer might argue that the tune made too much power for the transmission. In that case, you hope you have a dealer that's not an idiot.

I'm very lucky that the service manager I work with at my dealer is a car guy himself. He's active in the Subaru community. He even gave me advice on who to take my car to for suspension set ups. I told him about the things I'd read on forums about dealers denying warranty claims if they even get a whiff that the car had been tuned. He told me they evaluate on a case by case basis. He said they know what a bad part failing looks like and what one that was over stressed looks like. He said there is a big difference between the two.
 
#132 ·
My wife wouldn't see a bright side about $17,000 taken from our savings account. lol

It's weird when you search the internet with this car people either seem to go for a simple flash, or they're wanting 350 WHP/400 WTQ. There's no fucking way the motor can handle that power long term.

Yet, I'm finding a lack of information on the sensible people who just go for a J pipe and conservative pro-tune. It's like all or nothing when people mod these cars.

Also, everyone says "get a pro tune." I have no idea how people can put a lot of trust in someone trying to push a motor to its limits, like it's that much better than a Cobb flash. I had a lot of luck with my 93 tunes on my 13 WRX and 15 STI. I feel like they have done a lot more homework than some kid with neck tattoos and a laptop running the shit out of your car on a dyno. I'd almost feel safer with a simple Cobb 93 tune.
 
#136 ·
I agree with most of that. If I went with some mild, "common" mods, I'd probably go Cobb and DMan, but depending on the mods, a pro tune "might" be better, but not something I'd want to try with my 2022 or 23 car. If money was no object, well, I wouldn't be driving a WRX, but for some, I guess the hobby side of tweaking and tuning is what this platform is about. I think that's really cool! But for me, I'm leaving the performance end of things alone for now. I want a car that's fun to drive, reliable, handles sharply, and I don't have to spend too much time, money, effort, to enjoy it. I love my VB. 😉
 
#133 ·
Many of the people getting those tunes have the same neck tattoos and sticker covered laptops. That said I've worked in some midsize organizations, bigger than Cobb, and I wouldn't trust them too much more than mr. neckbeard/neck tattoo.

A j-pipe is not conservative, that's getting into 400whp territory. In general you just need flex fuel and 3 port ebcs for a conservative 300whp. As a bonus, Cobb has carb legal ebcs and an epa compliant flex fuel kit on the way with ots tunes.
 
#134 ·
A "pro-tune" calibration is tailored to your vehicle. An OTS calibration is not.

A "pro-tune" can be safer than an OTS calibration if the tuner is competent and attentive to details, cares about their work, and is willing to tweak the calibration throughout the year. Unfortunately there are a lot of tuners out there that don't fit this criteria....
 
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#135 ·
... and is willing to tweak the calibration throughout the year. Unfortunately there are a lot of tuners out there that don't fit this criteria....
This is part of the problem. Dyno tunes are just that, tunes in one place with fixed temperature & altitude. Most tuners are unwilling to adjust tunes in different weathers. Also, no tuner or even Cobb can afford to ship cars to colorado, himalayas, death valley, sahara & arctic circle for baseline data.
 
#137 ·
This car does not feel smooth to me, anymore. It seems like it slightly hiccups a lot from 2k rpm's to about 4k during normal driving. It's either due to the heat and humidity right now, or I didn't notice it as much before. Along with that, I'm becoming increasingly unimpressed with the acceleration at low speeds. The car feels really laggy, much more so than my STI despite an earlier turbo spool.

The more I drive it, the more the gearbox feels like plastic. When I go into reverse I feel like I have to force it. A part of me wonders if my factory STS is installed correctly (if at all).

The brakes feel increasingly softer. I know this is an easy fix, but I have neither the time, motivation, or desire to spend the money. (saving for a new house where I work) It simply should have been better from the factory.

Fuel economy is sitting right about 22-23 mpg. I have more highway miles than city miles. Granted, I use cruise control during my commute and it's not set at the speed limit.

The stearing rack is still nice for daily driving, especially on the highway. I think at this point I actually prefer it all together more than the my STI. Interior quality still feels good. It's a pleasant place to be, but the typical rattles are present. I think the Pandora loading issue is just as much attributed to my outdated phone as it is the general function of the infotainment system.

My front lip is still on backorder. My body side mouldings and arm rest extension were mistakenly not on the car during purchase. I had to bring that to the dealership's attention. I was holding out to have them installed when the lip comes in. I'm almost doubting if my STS was installed, but I really have no way to prove it. The dealership took the original sticker when checking on the issues, which in hindsight is pretty suspect. I think I'm going to contact SOA via email today.

The HK stereo system is still fine, but I notice the sound is a lot less impressive at lower volume than the HK in our Forester. That may be attributed to the WRX just being louder, and it's still an immense upgrade from my factory STI system. Speaking of sound, the car already seems to have more road noise. But, the once more relative comparison between that and the STI may have worn off. I also have a whistling sound coming from my passenger's side, of which I'm certain the dealership will ignore and it will be difficult to track down myself.

The trunk liner, as per usual Subaru, is nice. I regret getting the all-weather floor mats. They offer underwhelming protection, even in the summer. They have already started to fade and typical interior shine does nothing to improve that. I should have known better, considering I was not overly pleased with them on our Forester. Sticking with Weathertech would have been the smarter option. I really liked them on my STI. I have no idea why I decided to reinvent the wheel.

Out of our 13 WRX, 15 STI, 16 Crosstrek, 18 STI, and our 22 Forester, I'm least satisfied with this car, excluding the suspension/stearing rack/alignment issues I had with my 15.

The most ironic, and absolutely unexpected part of my current perspective, is I've come to enjoy the sound the car makes. If it weren't for the 30 minutes on the highway and my unwillingness to pay $1,500, I would accentuate it with Cobb SS exhaust. That said, I'm not one to rev cars, but doing so upon request is cringeworthy. Case in point, I have a good friend at work who asked me to rev it for him. Big V8 guy, but he's always respected my Subarus. I throttled it to about 4,500 RPM's and he quickly turned around and walked away. lol. It's still a far cry from my beloved EJ sound. I see a few STI's where I work, and I always crack my windows to hear the iconic rumble. If I infrequently drove my car, I would honestly consider being dumb enough to go with an UEL header and as good of a dyno tune as I could get. I doubt I would actually go through with it.

If my last STI had not had mysterious similar issues to a lesser extent than my 15 STI, I would deeply regret not keeping it. The highway driving fatigue was the deciding factor, but my WRX doesn't feel special at all compared to my STI's. I really wish there had been a better fit for what I wanted, without paying ridiculous markup on the Type-R I desired. Unless I trash my warranty and compromise my financial values by modifying this car, I don't see me keeping it for a full five years.
 
#138 ·
I totally understand some of your criticisms, although I haven’t experienced all of them myself. So far I like the car a lot. I plan to keep it for a year or two… probably not longer than that. I actually wanted to get the new M2 but wasn’t willing to pay a penny over MSRP so I ended up getting the WRX (for a discount even) and it’s good for what it is. So I might still get that (or a cayman) if I see any discounts in the coming years.

BTW, I just put on an axle back yesterday and that woke the car up quite a bit. Now it sounds really good. Maybe I’ll post a clip on my introduction thread in the coming days. I know you said you don’t want to spend money on it but IMO the exhaust is mandatory for this car. I would do it. You can always sell it for 50-65% if what you paid for it later on. Even just an axle back and it makes a lot of difference In sound. The stock exhaust sound isn’t bad but it’s just way too quiet for my tastes (And especially to those who drive V8s :LOL:) And yeah, compared to an STI, the WRX lacks a few things. But for a WRX it’s pretty damn good. If Subaru offered an STI no doubt I would have one now and wouldn’t have even considered the WRX. I actually saw a really nice blue 2020 or 2021 STI yesterday in the parking lot, what a beautiful car, and beautiful sound.:love: Such a bummer Mitsu and Subaru killed the Evo and STI.
 
#139 ·
If Subaru offered an STI no doubt I would have one now and wouldn’t have even considered the WRX.
That was always our plan. I was legitimately pretty bummed out for a while when I found out one wasn't going to be offered. At one point, there was even a rumor the car would be offered with the S209 engine. That pissed off a lot of people on Nasioc, but it would have been fine with me.

As far as the exhaust goes, we're on the path to deplete all of our savings on a mortgage within the next year or so. I have never had any luck selling my used car parts for anywhere near 60% of original value. I held on to Corsa Extreme in 2018 for 6 months, before I practically had to give it away.

I may talk myself into it eventually, but I will lose some points with my wife for sure.