The "ability" will be because of tires and driver alone and not anything technical in the drivetrain.

Your winter tires will make all the difference.

So many people in SUVs are running worn-out high-mileage A/S tires that are barely adequate in the dry.

So let's modify your statement.

I'm amazed at the ability these tires have in the snow 😁

 

The "ability" will be because of tires and driver alone and not anything technical in the drivetrain..

I’ll disagree with the drivetrain statement.
Tires do in fact make the biggest different, but I’ve been through cars with Quattro (Audi S3), S-AWC (Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X) and Symmetrical All Wheel Drive (Subaru WRX and WRX STI), all with dedicated Winter Tires during the Winter, and feel most confident with these Subarus. That being said the Quattro in the Audi S3 is more like Faux Wheel Drive so that’s probably why it sucked.


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I find it's not the getting going with ice that's a problem, it's the stopping.

 

Excellent point. The turning as well. Both are things that tire compound will help to improve.

 

I big misconception of awd is that it adds grip or traction. This is entirely false. It distributes torque across the traction that's already available allowing the vehicle to use more of that traction when accelerating.

It doesn't do much of anything in a corner besides the possibility of controlling yaw and helping shove the car to the center.

 

Yeah, cornering is an entirely different story, I was just talking about being able to get moving on snow. Yeah the tires I have are amazing, I deff recommend them for people who have to live in a place that gets alot of snow

 

For what they are I think Subarus are pretty good, is there something that is better under some circumstances, well of course. However for me I am not willing to own a 4 wheel drive like a jeep, don't want one, have no use for the, so I don't care if they are better income situation. I don't need one either, for my circumstances I can have one car, for me that is a WRX. For me in state college I can run it with all seasons including with some snow and get around. I just ran all seasons on my Impreza, it always did the job, I am 50 years old and have never purchased a set of winter tires. Does not mean I would not but I have not.

I have always played around with my cars in slick conditions and ice or snow tend to just make them more of what they already are. For example Subarus lead with understeer and then can show up with some drop throttle over steer, then under steer again when you hit the gas. That is pretty much what it is going to do. So on ice or snow if you over drive the car you are probably going front end first into the ditch. With a rear drive car you have a shot of going ass end first. No matter what your tires are you have to drive within the limits of the conditions, so in a sense even tires don't matter, you can over drive snow tires in the winter just as much as all seasons.

So in conclusion I think Subarus are pretty good in slick conditions as long as you don't drive like an idiot. But the same applies for a jeep.
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