All tires are quiet right off the shelf. Give it a few thousand miles before you make that assessment. Just enough time to boil the frog.

I think Ultra High Performance All Season tires is a contradictory term. There's a big compromise between an all season "performance" tire vs. dedicated summer and winter tires.

15,000 miles? I've never had seasonal tires wear out that quick. My Michelin PS 4s+ tires look new at 10k miles.

I made the mistake of buying Michelin PS A/S+ all season "performance" tires a couple years ago. They handle OK and some comparison articles said they might be on par with high performance summer tires. I don't see it...

They rode nice and quiet when new, as almost all new tires do. Within about 2-3k miles they were screaming. They ride very rough. Almost like the reviews said they would. I welcomed my PS 4S' with open arms, and they ride great 8 months out of the year compared to the A/S.

Dedicated winter tires and summer tires are the way to go. In the future, if I can't afford to go that pay $100 twice a year to swap my tires, maybe I shouldn't buy a $40,000 enthusiast car. When you buy a tire advertised for compromise, you have to do a lot of compromising. I thought my A/S tires were just fine, until going back to summer tires. The difference as night and day.

 

agree 110% with ProZ ... if i could add anything it's that in the old days a set of tires lasted a year or two. nowadays with 700 treadwear rating you could be stuck with them for 5 years lol

 

You guys have a point, but I've driven a lot of cars, and I've owned a few that I did the summer / winter swap. I think for your average driver (kinda like me), the UHP AS will be fine. Read the reviews on TireRack, Discount Tire, and numerous other places. People with performance cars are perfectly happy with them. Would I track them. No. (I don't track). As daily driver that likes to drive spiritedly through the mountains here in Utah (with unpredictable weather), I think they will be fine. If I decide they aren't, I'll regret selling my summer tires and get two sets of dedicated tires just like you recommend, but I hate the storage and switch aspect (in fact I don't really have the storage space).
Even if they only last with a quality ride as long as Summer performance, at least I don't have to go through the hassle of changing every season, and they are cheaper.

 

I use A/S down in SoCal. I'm not about to swap to winters just so I can go to a family place up in the mountains, I don't miss the dry grip of summers, and I like the reduced treadwear even if it's at the expanse of that grip. So far, so good. I've had A/S on my Subaru for 3 sets now, so about 150K miles.

 

Living between Rochester and Buffalo NY we see a good amount of snow. I’ve always used all season tires on all my vehicles. Just had a set of Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 ZP’s installed yesterday on my WRX. Went with these tires because of the added Run Flat Technology. I might not ever put the OEM Dunlop’s back on. With the start of the colder temps and wet roads I could feel the Dunlops loosing their grip. The first drive with the Michelin’s, the car was stuck to the road like a go-cart again. If they stick to the road like this in the winter, I can’t wait to see how they act in the summer.

 

Good luck. My Michelin PS A/S + tires are loud and uncomfortable as hell. The loud rigid ride home after getting them mounted again made me long for the summer.

 

My Conti DWS06 Plus UHP A/S are quiter and more comfortable than stock Dunlops. I've read that they are better than the Mich PS A/S. I thought they were more similar, but maybe not.

 

In fairness, I think the problem is the PS A/S are a better handling tire than the Conti's, but the compromises for noise and ride quality are a lot more noticeable. When I purchased them, I thought, "How bad can it be?"

It's bad.

 

I have a couple hundred miles on my Michelin's so far. Can't hear them at all while driving.

 

I'm in a similar boat, and I've been using the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 Plus and Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my car as well. They're a great compromise, especially if you don't want to swap tires frequently. I prefer the high-performance Contis. They offer better noise control and damping, and they've handled everything Utah weather has thrown at them, from heavy rain to snow to ice. I've driven through the mountains in snow and ice without any problems, and I've never had to swap my tires. Best wishes.

 

I'm in a similar boat, and I've been using the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 Plus and Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my car as well. They're a great compromise, especially if you don't want to swap tires frequently. I prefer the Contis. They offer better noise control and damping, and they've handled everything Utah weather has thrown at them, from heavy rain to snow to ice. I've driven through the mountains in snow and ice without any problems, and I've never had to swap my tires. Best wishes.

I now have an entire epic snow season behind me now with the Conti DWS (original post Nov. 22), in lots of snow and ice and they've been fantastic. Looking forward to more snow soon. No worries.

 

After 3 years on the OEM summer tires, I've never swapped tires, although I will have to replace them soon.😜

 

I swapped out the OEM tires for All season Falkens that were only $125 each since it's getting cold. The ride quality improved greatly and at up to 9/10ths they work great. I f you want to corner at the limits and it's above 50 and dry the OEM tires do grip like crazy if the road is very smooth. If the roads are bumpy, the OEM tires are lousy as they are soo stiff the car bounces all over the road.