Shoulda raced the cop.

You would have killed a police special from a dig.

 

you beat a car which has less hp on the crank than you have on wheel !!!! oh well!! :tongue:

 

haha thats pretty funny. There are alot of saturn owners where i live who are cocky too (with cars that are more stock...than...i dont kow)

 

i beat i saturn LS300 with my dads old 89 dodge caravan LOL

 

wow. I thought that those sc ions were quick. I gotta hit one up with my spec v then.

 

Saturn drivers= cocky drivers with bad credit

 

wow. I thought that those sc ions were quick. I gotta hit one up with my spec v then.

I wouldnt be that confident... they are not really THAT fast, but will stick click off low 15's. which is right around if not a tad better than a specV... also, caverdini is stageIV. but even a stock rex would have made him cry

 

I wouldnt be that confident... they are not really THAT fast, but will stick click off low 15's. which is right around if not a tad better than a specV... also, caverdini is stageIV. but even a stock rex would have made him cry

what's there 1/4 mile and 0-60 times?

 

they're pretty light though, 2600 lbs.

 

what's there 1/4 mile and 0-60 times?

C/D estimated times:

0-60: 6.2s
1/4 mile: 15.0s @ 96mph

15 flat....hmmmm. Sounds a bit optimistic

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=7370&page_number=2

 

yup sounds a bit optimistic to me. Although it is supercharged so anything is possible. Numbers could be under rated. Just look at the srt 4. dodge did some sandbaggin on that one.

 

the ion has a bit of a weight issue.. they advertised it pre release that it was going to be 2600lbs.. everything I've seen from other sources post release says it's about 2900 or so... that' weight advantage goes away real quick when it gains 300 lbs.. check Sport compact car's review: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0405scc_redline/

they had it listed as 2960.

 

Redline Who???

I tested the Ion Redline awhile back, and was very disapointed with it. Power delivery felt like a 2000 Civic Si. Only good thing about it was the brakes and handling. A Stock WRX-SRT will walk all over an Ion Redline, I Gurantee It

 

C/D estimated times:

0-60: 6.2s
1/4 mile: 15.0s @ 96mph

15 flat....hmmmm. Sounds a bit optimistic

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=7370&page_number=2

yeah, a bit optimistic indeed... from what i have heard it is more around the 15.1-15.4 area... but who knows. for the money though its definatly a competitor with the spec V, SI, etc...

 

I'm not impressed by the Saturn Ion Redline in terms of raw power. However, I heard they handle pretty well and have good brakes.

I don't know why that owner couldn't realize how he'd get his ass handed to him by you but whatever, guess he wanted some "fun".

 

ive some of the saturn guys, one of my friends is a huge saturn guy. one of the nice saturns, the guys are cool, well because they have to fab everything up.

I knew this guy with a custom fab sl2, with a home grown turbo kit pulling 13s and ran it safely as his daily. It wasn't cool because he had a turbo, its cool because he did it himself.

 

C/D estimated times:

0-60: 6.2s
1/4 mile: 15.0s @ 96mph

15 flat....hmmmm. Sounds a bit optimistic

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=7370&page_number=2

Road & Track Sept. 2004

2004 Saturn Ion Red Line

0-20-1.5
0-40-3.8
0-60-6.2
0-80-10.2
0-100-15.8
1/4 14.8@97.1

 

I got the magazine today too and that is what they have. If thats true, Subaru needs to step up the power in the WRX. It just needs a little more and then they should up the STi power anyways to compete better with the Evo MR. Heres to hoping for redesigned '06s.

 

Road & Track Sept. 2004

2004 Saturn Ion Red Line

0-20-1.5
0-40-3.8
0-60-6.2
0-80-10.2
0-100-15.8
1/4 14.8@97.1

That trap speed is enough to beat a stock WRX from a roll. Obviously quarter mile is another story but I'd watch out for those cars if I was driving a stock WRX.

 

The Ion redline is a joke - It's totally a ridiculous car - the nicest thing about it are the seats like car and driver said - trust me - I am a saturn buff - I had a modded 01 sc before the rex and while it was a pretty and unique car - it was still a joke performance/handling wise - I drive a new ion coupe and it wasnt the redline but from that I can almost assume how the redline would drive - doesnt hold a candle - but I would take it over a tibouron - hate those cars man - I am not dissing saturn because I know some really friggin fast turbo ones and the custom fabbing takes a lot of time on those cars (trust me I did minimal custom stuff on mine and it felt like forever). The plus side is that saturns are extremely easy to take apart/put back together and any aftermarket parts that you buy for them are almost always a perfect fit considering the limited aftermarket availability - if you wanna see some nice saturns but cocky owner talk - check out www.saturnspeed.net - its my old stomping grounds.

 

That trap speed is enough to beat a stock WRX from a roll. Obviously quarter mile is another story but I'd watch out for those cars if I was driving a stock WRX.

Those were my thoughts exactly after seeing the trap speed. Here we go again.... Get ready to see kill story galore on the Saturn forums. I think I am going with a Cobb Accessport really soon. I just can't bear losing to a Saturn.

 

Road & Track Sept. 2004

2004 Saturn Ion Red Line

0-20-1.5
0-40-3.8
0-60-6.2
0-80-10.2
0-100-15.8
1/4 14.8@97.1

I read that article, the compairson between the Redline and the SRT. They only pulled a 14.5 with the srt. If I fell asleep half way down the track and my foot slipped off the gas, I might only run 14.5. I think my first time ever drag racing, in my bone stock SRT with stock tire pressure and the spare tire in the trunk, I ran a 14.6. In an 03. Stock 04's crack <14.00 almost every time.

Anyway, point is, either the track was really slow, which means the Ion is capable of being much faster - OR R&T, which if i'm not mistaken is owned by GM, managed to pull an incredible Ion time and a sh*t SRT time to help hedge the bet of it being an SRT competitor.

Everyone who's tested a Redline and an SRT has said there's no way the Redline can keep up with the SRT in a straight line. I'm waiting to see SCC or Motortrend run it...

 

all this crap talking about saturns... its because like honda owners its mostly kids that dont know sh1t!! I had before I wanted an AWD car, a 2002 sc1. I did a lot to, as in suspension, tires, motor, tranny, turbo.....etc..... It was a fast car. I was pushing over 290WHP. I could go around corners a lot better than a stock wrx. My car was really light too. The new redline is saturn trying out and seeing if they can compete in the compact world. And for this being their first time I think they did a pretty damn good job. And those things can be hooked up just as easy. But they will never have the AWD we have and that is the advantage that I love!!!

 

I'm all for the redline. I just don't think it's anywhere near a competitor of the SRT or WRX in the sport compact world. I don't think it has the power stock necessary to compete, but not many cars do. I guess, IMO, if saturn is going to come in after the WRX and SRT, they should have brought a bigger gun, knowing what the fight is like.

Competition is good for the breed though. I've got high expectations for the Cobalt SS. And now that the ~$20k performance group has been stepped up, we'll see what happens...

 

Saturn drivers= cocky drivers with bad credit

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