[sn_england]

its not all about the injectors

 

[Timdog1650]

its not all about the injectors

Well, I'm going to disagree there...I'll use an example.

If you want to blow up a building that is 3 stories tall and is 100 feet x 80 feet, you need to use 10 sticks of dynamite. Let's say for example, you only have 6 sticks. You won't be able to blow it up. Period. No matter how fancy you get with setting the charges, there just isn't enough explosive to create the right size bang to bring the building down. Same game with tuning.

You could flow a whole hurricane's worth of air through a motor and without the appropriate amount of fuel, it won't create power. Optimal power producing AFR can only vary by 2, 2.5 points from stoich before you're not making any power and just running dangerously rich or lean. Even with water injection or meth injection, or even Propane injection, eventually you're going to run out of fuel injector and stop making power.

 

[sn_england]

i didnt post everything ive done to my car is what im sayin

 

[20WRX04]

i didnt post everything ive done to my car is what im sayin

Well then, why don't you so we know how you did it.

 

[Timdog1650]

well you can reach up to 700 with them but i go to cft and there very good at what they do there the only ones ill trust with my cars

It doesn't matter if God himself tuned your car, it is not possible to make 450whp with a vf22 and 720cc injectors safely and repeatably. 700whp is right out of the question, and any shop that says it's possible is full of :bs: .

i didnt post everything ive done to my car is what im sayin

Enlighten me...

 

[sn_england]

all i can say is CFT knows what there doin, ive got meth injectors and some lil power adders

 

[20WRX04]

all i can say is CFT knows what there doin, ive got meth injectors and some lil power adders

I give up. :sadwave:
This is a forum to share info, not hide it & be a pompous ***. If you don't elaborate, we don't believe you. Have fun with this one guys.

 

[sn_england]

i really dont know or understand what all they did i just paid them to make me a car the had the 450 hp range

 

[Timdog1650]

Well maybe this is going to burst your bubble, but 450whp is totally outside the realm of reality on that turbo. I don't know what they said or say they did, but a vf22 is good for MAYBE, on a very aggressive meth injected tune, close to 380whp. That is running right on the edge with a built/super strong motor with some headwork and a set of high lift cams. Your mods are pretty decent, I bet the car is fun to drive, but from everything I've seen over the last 7 years on WRX forums, it's probably nowhere near 450whp.

 

[sn_england]

not a sarcastic statment but what do you drive

 

[20WRX04]

<---- Puts popcorn in microwave.

 

[Timdog1650]

not a sarcastic statment but what do you drive

Totally stock 04 STi. Only mods are aftermarket struts, perrin afta-maf inlet hose, Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position tires.

I don't mean to tell you your business, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so....

 

[sn_england]

i just know the simple stuff they did i dont know all the other stuff i just know its pushin about 450

 

[Timdog1650]

i just know the simple stuff they did i dont know all the other stuff i just know its pushin about 450

Do you have a dyno sheet or dragstrip timeslip? I mean honestly dude...you're trying to argue a relatively indefensible point against people who know a heck of a lot about these cars and turbocharged performance tuning. I am perfectly willing to be amazed if you can back it up with a dyno sheet or time slip, but it would literally be the first time I have ever heard of a 450whp vf22 car running safely on 720cc injectors.

 

[sn_england]

ill see if i can find it

 

[sn_england]

 

[Timdog1650]

Link doesn't work.

Edit: you are absolutely unbelieveable. What a total loser...

http://elementtuning.com/technical/Dyno Pages/Element GT65 Bolt-On Turbocharger.html

 

[Timdog1650]

http://http://elementtuning.com/images/Dyno%20Plots/Element%20GT65B%20512whp%20web.jpg

For posterity...

 

[sn_england]

it was my dyno sheet it says 452 hp

 

[rexbro]