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Hey guys,

My name is Greg and I am a new member here. I have visited this site periodically over the last few years. I currently own a 2011 wrx sedan in DGM. The car as it sits right now is TP stage 3. I started out with subaru in 2007 with an impreza 2.5i sedan. I owned that car for two years and did some simple modding. In august 2009 I traded it in for a 2009 jeep wrangler......I know I know. In july 2011 I grew tired of the wrangler and wanted to get back into a subaru. I ended up going with a 2011 wrx sedan in DGM that I purchased from Cityside subaru in belmont, MA.

Here is the current mod list:

Engine:
Cobb accessport
TurboXS catted downpipe
TurboXS front mount intercooler
TurboXS cold air intake
Perrin tubo inlet
Grimmspeed 3 port EBCS
GReddy Type-S BPV
Deatschwerks 65C fuel pump
NGK 1 step colder spark plugs
Custom Silicone Re-circulation Tube

Transmission
Cobb shorth throw shifter
Cobb front poly shifter bushing
Cobb rear poly shifter bushing

Brakes
Subaru 4 Pot front calipers
Subaru 2 Pot rear calipers
StopTech high performance front and rear pads
Centric Premium rear rotor from 2010 Legacy Gt
KNS rear caliper adapter plates

Gauges
AEM UEGO wide band
AEM digital boost gauge

Interior
Subaru Momo shift knob
AccessPort holding device

Exterior
35% tint all around
Rally Armor Mudflaps
Black Vinyl overlay on the front air dam
Clear Bra thing
Grimmspeed license plate relocation kit




I will be updating this list as time goes on


Brand new pic i took of it at the gym!!!



In august when the car had 300 miles on it I flashed it to stage 1 after reading all the horror stories of the factory tune. Wow it made such a difference!! That same month I purchased a set of Rally armor mud flaps and a cobb short throw shifter and poly bushings front and rear, let the modding begin!! Window tint(35% all around) came next. I had the windows tinted at Knights in Franklin, MA for all you locals who are looking for a good tint job.

The car sat like that for about six months and then the mod bug bit me again. This time it was way worse :D:D:D:D

I ordered a cobb catted downpipe in february 2012 and flashed the car to stage 2....all I have to say is WOW!!! It didnt stop there. My factory BPV started leaking and I went with an original GReddy type s BOV that I ran recirculated for a few months. During this time I installed a Perrin turbo inlet. Up next a TurboXS FMIC and CAI. With that order I also got a DW65C fuel pump, NGK 1 step colder plugs, and a grimmspeed 3 port EBCS. All of the parts arrived and I scheduled my Pro tune. A few pics of the parts going on


During the install of the FMIC i noticed a dent on the bottom of the core, needless to say I freaked out. I got on the phone with tom from Spun Auto sports and left him a message at 930 pm. He called me back at 945!!! awesome vendor. We began working out a solution. It was determined that the bumper would cover it and the dent does not effect the performance of the intercooler. We settled on 100 bucks back in my paypal account. I can not say enough about Tom and his Customer Service. He is awesome.

All the parts went on without further incident and the pro tune came to be. Video for all you guys!!



Dyno sheet!



Okay now for the bad news..... My car hated the tune and it didnt work out. Unfortunately the tuner tried to fix it but ended up turning his back on me. It was pulling almost 3* of timing at WOT under full boost....every time and the car was falling on its face. not to mention I was scared to drive it. the tuner kept telling me it was fine and that it was no big deal. Well I disagree. Any knock event that causes the car to pull that timing and make it fall on its face WOT under full boost is not okay. Many attempts were made to correct the issue but he ended up just making the tune worse. It would not reach target boost at 19.5 psi and every revision he made brought the boost table lower. It was boosting stage one levels by the time he was done "correcting it" and it was still pulling timing. I sent the logs discreetly to four top name tuners who all stated it was not normal. I brought it to his attention and he was rude and told me it was normal and I was obsessing over nothing. I got in touch with Eric at TP and he took on the challenge gracefully. I am currently in the process of finishing up the e-tune with him now. It shouldnt be long until it is complete.



Now for a bunch of random pictures of the car for your viewing pleasure!!!



I had a body shop clean up the lines on the bumper after I hacked it to make the FMIC fit and lay a piece of black vinyl over the flat part of the air dam









and now for a picture of my dog because he is awesome!!!



I hope you guys enjoyed the pics and story of my build and I will be updating this thread periodically as I do more things to the car. Im sure a built short block is on the way as the car is on borrowed time at 20 psi !! Any questions or input would be great. I am well versed in the mechanical aspect of working on these cars. I planned this mild build over a period of about six months after researching many aspects of the wrx platform. I will be starting on suspension mods next now that the power part is out of the way.

also I am going to start taking pictures step by step of the installs of everything I put on the car and post write ups for everyone that would like to see the process for each install. I hope to be a good contributor to this forum and you will see NO FLAMING from me.

Thanks guys!!!



Greg

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Welcome, coming along great. You can't have a cat back exhaust in your town/state? Makes no sense why companies sell 50 state legal parts then..
 

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How was the fitment/install on the TurboXS front mount?
 

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Welcome, coming along great. You can't have a cat back exhaust in your town/state? Makes no sense why companies sell 50 state legal parts then..
In massachusetts we cant have any exhausts. I think it is lame too man. I love the sound.

How was the fitment/install on the TurboXS front mount?
The turboxs fmic fitment was pretty good. The core is thick and you have to hack a pretty god amount off of the bumper. The instructions that came with it were not that great. They listed part numbers that were not included and it was like a guessing game haha. Everything was included that you need for the install though. talk to spun autosports and he will beat any price on the internet. or you could pm the vendors on here and maybe they can help you out. If you want to know what I payed for mine pm me.
 

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Most of my family is police (not I.. I'm the illegal of the fam) and they all have had me modify the cars/trucks for them.. Nothin like good ole hypocrites
 

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Looking good, man. What are your suspension plans?
 

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Looking good, man. What are your suspension plans?
Thanks man. I'm dragging my feet on the suspension mods. I plan on doing sway bars and end links at a minimum. I am reluctant to change the height or ride quality for now. But I have considered BC coil over lol :D

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Harsh ride, not for handling or bettering your suspension, mainly built for stance purposes. They will claim the world to sell a product but in reality they arent for anything but getting the ride height you would wish.
 

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Why do you call it a stage 3? That would be with a turbo swap. I don't understand why you did the FMIC either. Your mod path is very strange. The FMIC isn't really doing anything for you with a stock turbo other than robbing you of power.

In massachusetts we cant have any exhausts. I think it is lame too man. I love the sound.
Since when? I used to live in MA until 4 years ago and they were allowed. You're just not allowed to remove any cats, which is common everywhere in the country.

Harsh ride, not for handling or bettering your suspension, mainly built for stance purposes. They will claim the world to sell a product but in reality they arent for anything but getting the ride height you would wish.
+64 ^^^ what he said. Go with a good set of struts and some shorter springs instead. Coilovers are total overkill for street driving and the vast majority of track driving too (i.e. weekend track warrior). They just sound sexy to people and the vast majority 99.99999% of people that buy them have absolutely no need to be using them over a good set of springs and struts.

You should start considering braking upgrades to match your additional power before you do anything else. Just doing fluid and pads would be enough, though stainless lines are relatively cheap as long as you do them yourself and you're doing the brake fluid flush anyway.
 

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Why do you call it a stage 3? That would be with a turbo swap. I don't understand why you did the FMIC either. Your mod path is very strange. The FMIC isn't really doing anything for you with a stock turbo other than robbing you of power.

Since when? I used to live in MA until 4 years ago and they were allowed. You're just not allowed to remove any cats, which is common everywhere in the country.

+64 ^^^ what he said. Go with a good set of struts and some shorter springs instead. Coilovers are total overkill for street driving and the vast majority of track driving too (i.e. weekend track warrior). They just sound sexy to people and the vast majority 99.99999% of people that buy them have absolutely no need to be using them over a good set of springs and struts.

You should start considering braking upgrades to match your additional power before you do anything else. Just doing fluid and pads would be enough, though stainless lines are relatively cheap as long as you do them yourself and you're doing the brake fluid flush anyway.
How is my mod path strange? It's textbook for setting up for future upgrades. Stage 3 is what the tuner called it with the upgrades. It is not necessarily a turbo upgrade because it is listed as that. In fact my build with the stock turbo does not get any more solid than what it is.

As far as the exhaust we are not allowed to modify it in any way since like forever ago. You must have misinterpreted the law when you were living here.

And additionally I do not want to lower the height of the vehicle any more since I live I. New England. I have a hard enough time getting out of my driveway.

The front mount intercooler is not robbing me of power. I literally laughed when I read this. My intake temperature is 10* higher than ambient on most occasions which is lower than you will get with any top mount. I do log it frequently. It is in no way hurting the power I can assure you of that. The fact that I hit full boost of 20 psi at 3100 rpm is proof enough and I can post logs to prove that.

Did you read this thread and think to yourself how can I put down every aspect of it before you posted ?

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How is my mod path strange? It's textbook for setting up for future upgrades. Stage 3 is what the tuner called it with the upgrades. It is not necessarily a turbo upgrade because it is listed as that. In fact my build with the stock turbo does not get any more solid than what it is.
According to your post below, you have no plans to do future power upgrades (at least any time soon), which therefore makes it a strange mod to do the FMIC without any plans to do a turbo.

Im sure a built short block is on the way as the car is on borrowed time at 20 psi !! Any questions or input would be great. I am well versed in the mechanical aspect of working on these cars. I planned this mild build over a period of about six months after researching many aspects of the wrx platform. I will be starting on suspension mods next now that the power part is out of the way.
You also upgraded a number of things in the fuel system like the fuel pump when you don't have mods necessitating the delivery of more fuel than the stock system can handle. And if for some reason you did need additional fuel, you didn't upgrade your injectors, which again is a strange mod path.

As far as the exhaust we are not allowed to modify it in any way since like forever ago. You must have misinterpreted the law when you were living here.
The laws haven't changed in quite some years. They specifically state:
No person shall operate a motor vehicle on any way which motor vehicle is equipped (1) with a muffler from which the baffle plates, screens or other original internal parts have been removed and not replaced; or (2) with an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust.
Therefore replacing your stock exhaust with an aftermarket unit was perfectly legal and they weren't ticketed because by putting a manufactured aftermarket exhaust on your vehicle without changing the baffles, screens or other parts wasn't illegal. At the same time, an aftermarket exhaust system that was louder was legal because it wasn't modified from the original manufacturer product.

What did change is the interpretation and enforcement of these laws and LEOs were given the directive to more actively enforce a new interpretation of the laws due to resident complaints about loud exhausts. I have many friends in law enforcement in MA who this information comes from.

And additionally I do not want to lower the height of the vehicle any more since I live I. New England. I have a hard enough time getting out of my driveway.
I assume you mean due to ground clearance in dry weather? I haven't lowered my Porsche because of this same exact concern. I already have enough trouble driving it at the stock height and clearing entrances to gas stations, parking lots, and many other things, so I totally understand that!

The front mount intercooler is not robbing me of power. I literally laughed when I read this. My intake temperature is 10* higher than ambient on most occasions which is lower than you will get with any top mount. I do log it frequently. It is in no way hurting the power I can assure you of that. The fact that I hit full boost of 20 psi at 3100 rpm is proof enough and I can post logs to prove that.
What info did you use to compare your intake charge temps with those of a car with the same exact mods and tune except a good quality TMIC like the Process West? I'm trying to understand what you used for comparison.

I should qualify what I mean by loss of power. The greatly increased length of piping introduces lag into the system which takes away from the driveability of the car. The peak power will not be affected, but that doesn't apply to daily driving conditions and power available on demand. The Process West TMIC is an excellent product that delivers low intake charge temps similar to your setup without the lag. A FMIC of the same size as a TMIC will always produce lower temps on the exit side of the IC due to its better location in terms of accessibility to more and cooler air at the front of the car as well as its fin orientation being better because it's perpendicular to the airflow versus the slanted TMIC that's partially obscured by the hood.

The longer tubing also introduces several areas for intake charge temps to go up and overall airflow to go down versus the TMIC:
1) The longer piping and subsequent bends and overall length introduce significantly more turbulence which makes them flow less efficiently hence less overall air volume.
Note: This along with much more importantly the necessity of the turbo to pressurize a larger system is what combines to give you additional lag over a TMIC.
2) It raises temps through additional air friction generated by the turbulence along with the larger compressive chamber producing more opportunity for friction due to compression.
3) The tubing flows through hot engine compartment areas where it has a chance for much more heat soak introduced by its proximity to hot engine compartment components and hot air versus the short tubing of a TMIC.

Did you read this thread and think to yourself how can I put down every aspect of it before you posted ?
I'm not putting down anyone or anything. I'm merely trying to understand why you did things the way you did and possibly provide you with information you weren't previously aware of. One important thing is that in order to do the FMIC you've had to remove the front crossmember which is an integral part of your crash protection, so your vehicle is significantly compromised in safety in a front-end impact versus stock.
 
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