yeah, they seem kinda misinformed about the rex. i m fairly sure the wrx is just as safe if not safer than the 3. at least we have the ability to avoid some accidents before they even happen. they think the suby may be unreliable but if you turbo up the 3, then you are voiding warranty. but nonetheless, two fun cars. cant go wrong with either. all depends if you are a comfort guy with moderate spirited driving urges or a no frill high perf car kinda guy.DTR rex said:a lot of what they said on that board was wrong. But they dont drive wrx's so you have to expect them to be moderatly uninformed. If you like the 3-s go for it man... its a nice car and that not a bad price for a fully loaded car with moonroof, leather, etc... Not to mention there are a few pretty cheap turbo kits in the making for the mazd3
Give it until next year. Relatively cheap turbo's galore.BigBallin said:sorry but there is no cheap turbos in progress right now...you will have to swap your left nut for one...the hiboost kit starts at 4,000. sorry that is too much. if youre planning to put a turbo on a 3 might as well buy a wrx for the money after upgrades!
camino cielo said:drove my mom's EDM Focus which the Mazda3 is based on and it outhandles a WRX wagon easily. I was very impressed with the handling of the Focus and I'm sure they improved it for the mazda, but then again, they usually dumb cars down, ie, make them softer, for the american market. Of course this was in the summer so when the snow comes, different story but not everyone of us lives in the snow. Also, the wrx prob has more aftermarket suspension mods to equal the focus, sorry, mazda, but then how much money have been spent?
Exactly and not only that, learn how to handle the car as well. If you driven a RWD or a FWD and then you get into the WRX you are not going to do the right things at the right times and you are going to drive like crap and then say that the car doesn't handle, its all in the driver my friend (camino cielo). P.S. as you can see I am into handeling more then into speed, and you can drive the WRX sloppy or like a champ by simply keeping it on the throttle or not. If you go into a turn and don't modulate the throttle propperly you will get your self hurt, but do it correctly and you blast though it without a problem.RayfieldsWRX said:Yeah, there's an important distinction to be made between "nimble" and "good handler". There are MANY small cars out there that are more nimble on tight city streets than a stock WRX. Take it up to speed, though, and the situation changes. (Especially with a simple tire change on the WRX...)
LOLsubaru_crazy said:before i get into this i want to know what is your base for that opinion, did you drive a WRX as well? becasue I didn't drive a focus but drove many FWD cars, and i don't see how stock for stock it can out handle the WRX wagon or not. I have the wagon and I got compliments from friends who drive BMWs on the handeling. The only thing is, the focus is propably more nimble becasue its smaller and it gives you that feeling but when it comes to pushing the limits i think AWD will own FWD any day, dry or wet pavement.
yo vanilla said:first of all, i don't see why everyone is getting all worked up over these two cars being compared. lol are you jealous, offended, or in denial that someone else makes a competant car to compete with your precious subarus? :rotfl:
lol anyway ( ) even though these cars are a few thousand apart in base price, they are still in the same class overall, especially considering a fully loaded 3 is $20K or more. the 3s is nice inside if you're a dashboard molesting type, and handles very well actually OMG it's only FWD :baaa: . realtime racing has been beating up on lots of rwd cars with their acuras for how many years now; yes there is a limit on how far a small fwd car can go before the limits of the drivetrain type are exceeded, but i promise most people will never find that limit (as it is alot higher than most realize or admit).
just wait until a mazdaspeed 3 comes around; it ought to have the handling prowess of the MP3 along with power levels equal to the wrx, and who knows it may even come as an awd car. it would be equal or maybe even better in price to hte wrx, with more warranty that will be much less likely to be voided at the slightes inclination .
So you think that all cars have the same capabilities? That's goofy. Of course driver skill and courage are a large part of the equation, but it's kind of ridiculous to say that handling wise, you + Dodge Caravan = BMW.subaru_crazy said:so in real world it comes down to how fearless and skill full a driver is, peroid.
LOL this has to be a troll post. you say it's all the driver but you imply that the bmw can't outrun a caravan in "teh twizteez". driver is a very important part of the equation, yes, but it is not "all" in the driver. what you've described is a situation that sets the limits low enough that the front heavy passat and the kia suv don't get overworked (must be a fairly slow course lol) and also the bmw driver wasn't so skilled, or he really wasn't pushing it. i'm not a bad shoe, put me in that same bmtroubleyoo and i'll run a circle around your sorento :rotfl: btw fearless doesn't mean much; i've known many "fearless" drivers run their cars right off the road because they thought the had the skills of a 10ft bulletproof andrettisubaru_crazy said:oh please i was able to keep up with a bmw in my dads dodge caravan on the twisties, it doesn't mean squat, all i know the WRX gives me a thirl every time i drive it through the twisties, and yes the understeer was really evident with the stocker tires but pirelli nero zero pretty much took care of that.... yes the suspension is not the greatest but it will hold its own, its all in the driver i repeat its all in the driver!!!!!!!!!!! few other examples one of my girl friends bought a kia sorrento and she dirves like mad through the tiwisties you can hardly keep up with her in any car youre in, i mean come on its a KIA! and its a SUV :eek3: then my other friend has a passat and he dirves like mad and my friend in BMW can't shake em either neither can I so in real world it comes down to how fearless and skill full a driver is, peroid. However the fun factor in any car i have driven so far just doesn't compare to the WRX.