One of the best points about North American "performance drivers".....ticrab said:
Like I said before, still waiting on some statistics for US owners on broken transmissions on WRXs(2001,2002,2003) compared to Australia, European and Japanese... that should tell us a lot about stupid kids and drag racing.
ticrab said:... that should tell us a lot about stupid kids and drag racing.
Tell me a time when "stupid kids" (yourself included, you were one once too, supposedly) weren't interested in fast cars and drag racing. Just think back to how YOU would have treated it as a kid - theres your answer.
I was waiting for that one... I guess you don't know who I am and where I come from, huh? Let me tell you this: where I come from, we don't do drag racing because it could be fun a couple of times and then boring, because it's bad for your car's transmission especially with an AWD where all the stress goes to the tranny and not the tires spinning and burning(don't get me started on the so called "tire burnout and it smells good" crap...). Yes I was a kid. Yes my car would have looked ricey if I would have been 10 years younger with a WRX.
My point? Here it is:
Subaru had and still have a reputation of selling Outback and Legacy. A LOT of people don't know what the WRX is. A LOT of people laugh at the WRX because when their owners say it's fast, people have a grin on their face, roll their eyes, and think quietly "What's that guy on?!? It's a damn Subaru!". So what kind of average customer does Subaru have? Do you think all the Outback owner have orgasms talking about modding their cars? Do you think Legacy owners talk about 1/4 mile and what they can do about street racing on the weekend? No. Chances are they are like a Camry daily driver. Or a Sonata driver. Or a Stratus. Keep that in mind. Would Subaru design their AWD system plateform for illegal or not drag racing on the weekend with people modding it to increase their HP? They want it to be reliable and take a certain abuse. Please try to have a off record lunch with some of their engineers if you could and talk about what they designed it for.
This is why I said I would like to know how many tranny will be broken for all the Subaru sold in the US vs all the broken tranny in every other country, then a detailed comparison for each model(Outback, WRX, etc). I'm curious.
The mechanic at the dealership in town told me they never had that many tranny problems before on Subaru up until the WRX came out. I read posts of kids arguing "their old Camaros would last and that stupid WRX is weak" now they broke the tranny. Why? The stress and energy involved has to be dissipated somewhere. Apprently to some of those people, Subaru should fix that problem. I don't have a PhD in Physics but I know better.
.(by the way, soon enough we will hear non Subaru owner saying "I have a friend who heard more and more Subarus have transmission problems"... and there goes Subaru's reputation... would it be justified?)
What are we going to talk about next? Kids suing fast food places because they are fat? Thank you.
I honestly can't say I wouldn't have drag raced my car if I was 18. I can't say no because I don't know. All I know is that I used to watch and go see some WRC stages back home and would also watched movies, documentaries about the US and drag racing with my friends and we thought that was annoying and boring. And yes, we caught ourselves trying a couple of times and still didn't get why it was "cool"... Different culture I guess.cobra117 said:
Ooook, what were we talking about? Oh yes, "Stupid Kids", that somehow evolved into a conversation about Camaro's and Fast food. The only point I made was kids have always beat up their cars and raced illegally. You admitted yourself, you probably would have too if you had a WRX at 18.
All that other stuff, Ok. The car was NOT designed for drag racing or illegal anything, but as far as I know no import is designed for drag. That doesn't stop the masses from doing it anyway.
I've never once clutch dropped my car, and only actually been in 2 races. I don't want to break my tranny any more than the next guy. Lighten up. Just stickin up for the little guys.
Re-read my post. I meant top of the line Impreza. A loaded H6 VDC is 10 grand more. Unlike 90% of the people on this board, most people don't have cash just sitting around to dump into a car. They have to stick with a price range. Some people like small cars too. So the Impreza is a good choice, and they go to the showroom to look at them and the RS/TS is cool and so is the Outback Sport, but they're not going off-road and the WRX has the powerful motor and all the options so they buy it. These people aren't buying it to build a monster dragster out of it. They're buying it 'cause its the right car for their budget.schischwein said:
One of the best points about North American "performance drivers".....
What's all this talk about the WRX being the top of the line model? I understand that many people only got interested into Subaru because of the Impreza WRX(and into rally because of it as well)...but do you guys not know of Legacies and Outbacks? Or about the H6 equipped cars?
Don't you ever scroll down on the main Forums page? Try the Rocky Mountain regional forum. Already some threads like you're looking for and we're happy to answer questions. (Colorado sux, avoid it at all costs. Denver is under 20 ft of snow and the ski areas have none. Stay away. )ticrab said:Hey Colorado guys!
Please open a thread in Off-Topic about your State and the area where you live. I love to travel and heard good things about Colorado in the past. I would like to drive my WRX all the way to Colorado someday. Things to do? Best place to stay for not too much? Etc.