Definately. It's kinda in between. It'll rotate with the throttle, but then it'll also go where you point it once it hooks. It's a funny animal.schischwein said:AWD cars can be tricky is categorising whether they tend to fall into pseudo FWD caracteristics or pseudo RWD.
2 things strike me funny about that thread. First, that the RWD Bimmer actually went faster in the wet than the dry ( ) and second that the guy chiming in for RWD referenced F1 and Le Mans, when of course AWD is specifically banned by the rules from both series/events. And of course it is banned from pretty much every series that AWD does not dominate.bedabi said:Have you seen the latest Grassroots Motorsports article about testing an AWD (WRX), FWD (RSX-S) and RWD (BMW 330) car on a track? The 330 had the worst times. I wrote about the article here:
Funny how people just flat out refused to believe the RWD car was the slowest.
I knew you'd have an answer to the F1 and LeMans counterpoint!GV27 said:2 things strike me funny about that thread. First, that the RWD Bimmer actually went faster in the wet than the dry ( ) and second that the guy chiming in for RWD referenced F1 and Le Mans, when of course AWD is specifically banned by the rules from both series/events. And of course it is banned from pretty much every series that AWD does not dominate.
Well, you can actually compare Porches 996 Turbo to WRX. Why? Here's the case. The 996 AWD system is an intelligent system, it's not a 50/50 power transfer to all wheels, it's a 40/60, 10/90, and almost anything inbetween. When going in a straight line, the 996 applies most or all its power into the rear wheels. Where as the WRX is a fulltime AWD 50/50 system. Both systems are heavy, and both systems contribute to the drivetrain loss. You can make and adjust an AWD car to handle just as well and an RWD car, if not better. AWD Alfa 155/156 dominated the BTCC series, until ultimately they were banned. Audi dominated in their S4/A4 introduction to the BTCC with their AWD system. No one system is superior. To buy a car because you feel the AWD is dominate is being uninformed.M Roadster+WRX said:
I think there's a difference between the general characteristics of AWD and the particular characteristics of a WRX. In general, AWD launches and handles better, but it robs crank hp and weighs down the car. Look at AWD Porsches. You can't compare their handling to the WRXs ... it's on an entirely different level.
If you could make an AWD system that didn't weight much over RWD, and didn't drop much hp across the tranny and diffs relative to RWD, I'd be there!
I justed wanted some of you guys to set the record straight.
It's often a mistake to point to a major international series for a particular part or technology. The rules are very rigid. No AWD, no ABS. In F1 engines can ONLY be 3 liter V-10.bedabi said:
I knew you'd have an answer to the F1 and LeMans counterpoint!
Just to be clear, the 5MT center diff does not really bias torque to the front or rear, physics does. It allows a certain amount of slip in normal driving, allowing the two ends to move at different speeds as conditions (like turning) dictate. When slip occurs, the center diff starts to lock up. With enough slip it locks up almost completely. In this state, the diff is sending equal power to the front and the rear. BUT since one end has more grip than the other, and the two ends are locked together, the end with more grip gets more power.FUNKED1 said:5MT WRX isn't always 50/50. The center diff is limited slip, so it will send more torque to the end with more grip. It's only 50/50 torque split when you are at zero slip.
And that auto WRX's have an electronic system that i don't know much about, but seems to be similar (mechanically) to what the Porsche uses.