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BobbyD said:
really...thats very impressive if you stayed even with a SS camaro. Those cars are definatelly no joke. When i was stock i got my ass handed to me by a cobra, and those are about as fast as an SS. He would have for sure reeled u in after 70+, those things have higher trap speeds than me, and you. My only advantage is that i can get possibly a 1-2 car jump. But i have raced people before, and i could only get about a half a car jump on them. Whenever i read about people get 3 car jumps on LS1 cars or similar performers, i kinda shake my head. Its really damn hard to launch so well that u get 2 cars on a powerful RWD car. Unless of course, u just drop the clutch, but that isnt an option for me, i baby my transmission...i already lost one at 3000 miles. So when i slip it, i have to do it perfect to get a 1-2 car jump, or else i just barelly get a half car jump, which just sucks unless the car im racing is slower than me from a roll. After taking out the 2 Cats i can afford getting bad jumps, since my trap speed is prolly at about 100mph now, and this is without the MBC...which is sitting on my counter ;). If i were you, i would do some burnouts, to make your tires sticky, and then i would try to get a really good hookup, and only let the WRX get a 1/2 car lead. I believe u will reel him in if he is only half a car ahead, especially after 60+. Good luck, and dont hope he bogs, cause then its not really a fair race...a fair race is when both of you get the best launches u can get, or pretty damn near close to it, so make sure u do it a couple of times if u mess up the first few. Oh and do it soon, i really wanna know how the race goes :).
I will definatly let you guys know when we race. It should be next Monday or Tuesday unless he can't make it.

BTW with a perfect launch my G-TEch pro gives me 0-60 in 5.75, I usualy average high 5's though.
 

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I like your car Emax...

I had a 91 Maxima before my WRX. I definitely looked into replacign it with a 02, but the WRX's all wheel drive was too big of a lure for wisconsin winters. Mom's got a 99 though. I really like them.

A 0-100 race is basically a 1/4 mile for both of our cars. It'll be close, provided you both have good launches. Hope you can improve on your 0-60' if you want to beat him though.

Let us know who wins.
 

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thechickencow said:
I like your car Emax...

I had a 91 Maxima before my WRX. I definitely looked into replacign it with a 02, but the WRX's all wheel drive was too big of a lure for wisconsin winters. Mom's got a 99 though. I really like them.

A 0-100 race is basically a 1/4 mile for both of our cars. It'll be close, provided you both have good launches. Hope you can improve on your 0-60' if you want to beat him though.

Let us know who wins.
Thank you.

My 60 foot at the track mostly stunk because of the track conditions. It was 40 degrees outside and if you have ever tried launching Kumho tires below 60 degrees you would know it's pretty impossible to do. Also a car there droped it's oil pan right after the tree, so traction was very hard to come by. Then to top it all off it was my first time ever at a drag strip and I did not even lower the PSI on the tires, I was running 32 PSI all around.

Once I get my headers and Y-pipe on I am going to head back to the track. If I can get my 60 foot down to 2.1 or even 2.2 I should be in the high 13's.
 

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Emax02 said:


Thank you.

My 60 foot at the track mostly stunk because of the track conditions. It was 40 degrees outside and if you have ever tried launching Kumho tires below 60 degrees you would know it's pretty impossible to do. Also a car there droped it's oil pan right after the tree, so traction was very hard to come by. Then to top it all off it was my first time ever at a drag strip and I did not even lower the PSI on the tires, I was running 32 PSI all around.

Once I get my headers and Y-pipe on I am going to head back to the track. If I can get my 60 foot down to 2.1 or even 2.2 I should be in the high 13's.
That would be a nice time to have in such a large car. One thing though. I think you should leave your tires at their "street" PSI. I don't usually like when people take their car to the track and put slicks on, or use race gas or whatever to get better numbers on their time slip and then tell everyone that their car runs that fast. IF the car is a track car and not a daily driver it is ok of course. This is all in my own opinion of course. Others may differ in opinion.
 

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i've only spent 50 bucks on mods, so basically im stock. i'll race you. where do you live?

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joe
 

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Emax02 said:
I bet, but the question is, could you hang with a turboed maxima running 16 PSI? :D We have one at maxima .org , with 12 PSI he put down 350 FWHP and about the same amount of TQ. He is running 15 PSI last I heard.
If I spent as much money on my car as this one, I would destroy him. In fact, give me about three months, I'll spend another $2000 in HP mods, and I'll welcome the race.

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Please do not take this the wrong way. I do like the Maxima and my family have owned 3 so far.

Now that I am finished with the disclaimer. I find it odd that Nissan rates the Maxima at 260 and the car manages to put down 198 - low 200s to the ground. Stock 5spd IS300s are rated at 217 (could be 212, I can't remember) and they typically put down anywhere between the upper 180s to 190 (some even putting down 195) to the ground.

This brings me to the next point, I think Nissan got caught up with the whole HP race and they may be over-rating their HP claims. The new SER is another example...150 to the ground for a car that was going to be rated @ 180 (later retracted to 175). The old SER was rated @ 140 (forgive me, I may be off a little) and many of them put down 120 or more in stock form.

Also, a stock wrx vs a stock maxima...I'd put my $ on the wrx (if the race was 1380 or less; distances greater than that, the max would run away). Mildly modd'd max vs modd'd wrx, I'd put my $ on the wrx. Turbo cars are cheaper to make faster, it is just that simple.

Welcome to the board, you will find that we are generally more friendly than i-club.com
 

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All8up said:
Please do not take this the wrong way. I do like the Maxima and my family have owned 3 so far.

Now that I am finished with the disclaimer. I find it odd that Nissan rates the Maxima at 260 and the car manages to put down 198 - low 200s to the ground. Stock 5spd IS300s are rated at 217 (could be 212, I can't remember) and they typically put down anywhere between the upper 180s to 190 (some even putting down 195) to the ground.

This brings me to the next point, I think Nissan got caught up with the whole HP race and they may be over-rating their HP claims. The new SER is another example...150 to the ground for a car that was going to be rated @ 180 (later retracted to 175). The old SER was rated @ 140 (forgive me, I may be off a little) and many of them put down 120 or more in stock form.

Also, a stock wrx vs a stock maxima...I'd put my $ on the wrx (if the race was 1380 or less; distances greater than that, the max would run away). Mildly modd'd max vs modd'd wrx, I'd put my $ on the wrx. Turbo cars are cheaper to make faster, it is just that simple.

Welcome to the board, you will find that we are generally more friendly than i-club.com
:D Us maxima folks have been saying the same thing about the HP #'s . The 2002 maxima is rated at 255 HP though, not 260. All though we definatly got skimped in the HP department we made out like bandits with the TQ :cool: The maxima is rated at 246 TQ and we put down a tad over 220 stock.

I'm going to see if this guy is ready to race now :D


PlatinumWRX, i beleive it, nothing beats AWD and a stock turbo for modding.
 

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I just called my firend who is trying to set this race up and he told me the guy with the WRX never got in touch with him :confused:

So the race is definatly not happining today :(
 

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I think the race will come down to the driver up to 100mph.

My other car is a slightly modded bare bones 99 Max SE 5spd ( jwt intake/cattman y pipe/stillen cat back exhaust/stillen stage 3 brake package/stillen frt strut tower brace/cattman rear anti roll bar) and it is a very good straight line match against a stock wrx unless the wrx launches right. I have run a couple of new max 6spds and I beat them both handily. My max weighs about 10lbs less than the wrx and with the mods is making around the same flywheel hp. The difference is really in the launch..the max will burn up the tire for as long as you hold the pedal down on a hard launch. My next mod to it will be a LSD to help out with that. If I dont do a good 4-5krpm clutch drop/roll with the wrx and just take off from idle, the max is pretty much even, just a little bit back of the wrx. If I launched right with the wrx, the max never catches up. Now that my wrx has a few tweaks, it is no contest of course.
 

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This should be a good race. If the WRX gets a good launch he will definetly take you by a little bit up to 60. However, Maxima's can really roll at speeds past 80mph so it should be close either way. Make sure you post the results.
 

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twinz said:
I think the race will come down to the driver up to 100mph.

My other car is a slightly modded bare bones 99 Max SE 5spd ( jwt intake/cattman y pipe/stillen cat back exhaust/stillen stage 3 brake package/stillen frt strut tower brace/cattman rear anti roll bar) and it is a very good straight line match against a stock wrx unless the wrx launches right. I have run a couple of new max 6spds and I beat them both handily. My max weighs about 10lbs less than the wrx and with the mods is making around the same flywheel hp. The difference is really in the launch..the max will burn up the tire for as long as you hold the pedal down on a hard launch. My next mod to it will be a LSD to help out with that. If I dont do a good 4-5krpm clutch drop/roll with the wrx and just take off from idle, the max is pretty much even, just a little bit back of the wrx. If I launched right with the wrx, the max never catches up. Now that my wrx has a few tweaks, it is no contest of course.
Nice max you have there. Before my 2002 I had 98 5spd Infiniti I30T. I put a Stillen Super charger on there and a ton of other stuff :D I would love to race the WRX with that car, it would be no contest. BTW as you probably know cattman.com has a HLSD for you 99, it's made by qualfe (S?).

Have you ever taken your 99 max to the track? Theres a few guys with your setup that run in the 14.4 - 14.8 range, theres one 14.2 actually.
 

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Nice max you have there. Before my 2002 I had 98 5spd Infiniti I30T. I put a Stillen Super charger on there and a ton of other stuff :D I would love to race the WRX with that car, it would be no contest. BTW as you probably know cattman.com has a HLSD for you 99, it's made by qualfe (S?).

Have you ever taken your 99 max to the track? Theres a few guys with your setup that run in the 14.4 - 14.8 range, theres one 14.2 actually.
Have not taken the max to the track but based on how it runs against my wrx, the 14.4-14.5 bracket is where its at. Yeah, I am going to get the quaiffe diff for the max..I was getting it in preparation for the stillen supercharger, but the wrx has been taking priority on my wallet since I picked her up. :D

I will definitely do the supercharger on the max once I have finished up the wrx..still have to get teins and turboxs stage 4 or 5 done first...too much to do and not enough spare $
 

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Have not taken the max to the track but based on how it runs against my wrx, the 14.4-14.5 bracket is where its at. Yeah, I am going to get the quaiffe diff for the max..I was getting it in preparation for the stillen supercharger, but the wrx has been taking priority on my wallet since I picked her up. :D

I will definitely do the supercharger on the max once I have finished up the wrx..still have to get teins and turboxs stage 4 or 5 done first...too much to do and not enough spare $
Cool, make sure you put a smaller pulley on the blower :D I know a lot of guys who run a 3.25' pulley with great results. I had a 3.48 pulley (stock = 3.65). Check out www.maxima.org if you've never been there.
 

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Cool, make sure you put a smaller pulley on the blower :D I know a lot of guys who run a 3.25' pulley with great results. I had a 3.48 pulley (stock = 3.65). Check out www.maxima.org if you've never been there.
Cool! thanks for the pulley info, much appreciated. ..have not been out to maxima.org in quite awhile, the WRX has been all consuming passion since I picked it up. With what I still have planned for the WRX, it looks like next spring will be fun time for the max...unless of course the STI or EVO show up, My wife wants either one so the max may go. But, I have to say, my Max has been the most reliable car I have ever owned in 26 years of car ownership. period. Absolutely nothing has ever gone wrong with that car..perfect, no squeaks or rattles, excellent build quality...and nissan makes the best v6 on the planet imho.
 

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being the new maximas (and the older ones for that matter) have a lot in common with my engine. i drive a modded 1992 ford taurus SHO 5 speed. i'm sorry, but small displacement NA engines such as ours are fairly optimized already. there are not many mods short of boost, cams, or bore that is going to make a huge difference at the track.

my car stock put down 185 HP to the front wheels, now it's around 208 HP to the front wheels (same mods on other shos get this number - haven't dynoed my car yet). my engine mods are a sho shop y-pipe with high flow cats, sho shop CAI, billet aluminum UDPS, pro flow 80mm MAF, edlebrock rpm exhaust. i'd bet that with my 20 added some odd front wheel hp (around 250 HP at the crank), i maybe only picked up a couple of tenths in the 1/4 mile. wanna know why? b/c HP is merely a mathematical equation for torque at a high rpms. TORQUE is what wins drag races. my torque only went up a couple lbs. and that is only at higher rpms. under 4K, my torque is stock!

so, what's the point of all this? well, big V8 engines like the LS1 and even 5.0s have a lot of room for improvement, so mods make a bigger difference to optimize their displacement.

so, in the end if you throw every bolt on mod on a 2002 maxima, you will see higher traps (a couple of miles/hr), but maybe 2 tenths quicker on your et.

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being the new maximas (and the older ones for that matter) have a lot in common with my engine. i drive a modded 1992 ford taurus SHO 5 speed. i'm sorry, but small displacement NA engines such as ours are fairly optimized already. there are not many mods short of boost, cams, or bore that is going to make a huge difference at the track.

my car stock put down 185 HP to the front wheels, now it's around 208 HP to the front wheels (same mods on other shos get this number - haven't dynoed my car yet). my engine mods are a sho shop y-pipe with high flow cats, sho shop CAI, billet aluminum UDPS, pro flow 80mm MAF, edlebrock rpm exhaust. i'd bet that with my 20 added some odd front wheel hp (around 250 HP at the crank), i maybe only picked up a couple of tenths in the 1/4 mile. wanna know why? b/c HP is merely a mathematical equation for torque at a high rpms. TORQUE is what wins drag races. my torque only went up a couple lbs. and that is only at higher rpms. under 4K, my torque is stock!

so, what's the point of all this? well, big V8 engines like the LS1 and even 5.0s have a lot of room for improvement, so mods make a bigger difference to optimize their displacement.

so, in the end if you throw every bolt on mod on a 2002 maxima, you will see higher traps (a couple of miles/hr), but maybe 2 tenths quicker on your et.

my .02,
Robby
The 95-99 maximas with basic bolt on's gain about .6-.8 tenths in the quater mile and about 5-6 MPH trap speed. With all the basic bolt on's (IE. Intake- Y-pipe, cat, cat-back and UDP) a 2002 maxima picks up about 30 FWHP. 30 HP is pretty darn good if you ask me. But anyways cars that come with boost stock definatly are much easier to mod. After I get my Y-pipe on I expect atleast 230 FWHP, 240 FWTQ and traps of over 100 MPH. In a little bit I will have proof :D

BTW I raced a stock 95 SHO in my NA modded 95 5spd maxima. We raced from 0-100 and I put about 3 cars on him. But mod for mod and driver for driver where a good match up and both cars have a awesome engine! BTW have you been to track with your car?
 
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