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Hey guys,

Just bummin around Supercars.net today, and it looks like VW has a new 4motion GTI out with 240HP. Stock for stock, we win in acceleration and the GTI wins in top end, but it would be a great race up to about 80MPH.

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there's also a good article on it on VWVortex.com

stock with 18" wheels, monsoon stereo, auto climate control, etc. very cool little ride.

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That does sound like a sweet ride. The only problem is that for all of us from the U.S.A, we are not getting that car anytime soon. I think the WRX is the obvious choise being as how it is the only one of the two that is available for purchase in the United States.
 

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I think you'd rather have the 5cyl 2.5L turbo diesel making ~247hp, 369lbs torque.
Too bad it's not available on the Golf.....but the 150 bhp TDI....sweet, 0-60 in 7 seconds AND 50 mpg
 

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The VW is a great car, the only strike it has against it is it's excessive weight.
 

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And the hit or miss electrical systems they seem to have. That's the one thing that made me even consider the WRX. I wanted a GTi so bad, but I don't want to be stranded somewhere due to electrical failure. (I didn't think it was that bad of a problem until my cousin had a New Beetle which the lights would cut out at times while driving at night... VW couldn't fix it and it spent most of it's 6 month life with her in the shop).
 

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Too bad it's not available on the Golf.....but the 150 bhp TDI....sweet, 0-60 in 7 seconds AND 50 mpg
Tan, screw the deisel. get out of the stone age! ;) 50 mpg is great till you can't go faster than 75mph. performance cars and deisel is not the preferred mix.









VW Vortex, R32 Golf Article


Six speed 4Motion. not a great AWD system as all manufacturers go, but nice enough my g/f has the wolfsberg edition jette. very small turbo, but a ton of fun to drive. i like VW

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Golf . . .
My WRX is my daily ride. I go up and into DC every morning. Even though I'm new to manual tranny, and the traffic here is supposidely the worst in the nation, I've rather enjoyed it (I hear this feeling is supposed to change in 1-2 months). Guess its a crash course in driving a stick.
Anyhow, this morning I noticed a black VW Golf with no badging on the back except the VW logo. I knew it was a Golf cause I ran into another later on. Well, do Golf's come without badging on their rear as normal? This Golf seemed different-wanted to drive very fast. Not that my WRX wasn't able to keep up (driving into DC, I like to let the other guys going 80 in a 35 stay a little ahead of me to take the tickets), but it made for a different than usual commute. He was blasting off from every red light.
The fast driving got me into work early. Too bad it took me an hour to find a parking space. Anyway, is there a golf out there without badging on the rear as standard? Just wondering.
 

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just de-badged. He could be a Vortexer (www.vwvortex.com).

I feel your pain about DC traffic (being from Manassas Park, VA)....now my commute to work is almost stress free.
 

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Yeah,

I go to school at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, and whenever I drive to DC to see a concert at MCI Center or something like that the traffic sucks.

I like backroads.....
 

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Rehash an older topic

It's Confirmed...the R32 is coming, most likely for the MY2004

from autoweek
Performance-oriented R32 Golf is U.S.-bound, Volkswagen chief says

The Golf R32 at last month's Paris Motor Show. (Photo by Mike Floyd)
Volkswagen chairman Bernd Pischetsrieder confirmed to AutoWeek the performance-oriented R32 Golf is indeed coming to the U.S. market. We last reported a decision on whether to sell the car stateside was dependent on whether it could meet U.S. crash standards.
Apparently, the car passed the tests because now Pischetsrieder is saying the R32 will arrive within the next year as a 2004 model.

The R32’s launch date depends upon how quickly the car can be adapted to meet U.S. certification standards, he says.
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Comparing performance numbers? the regular GTI 4Motion V6 goes from 0-60 in 7 seconds flat (similar to the 150 diesel motor)...the extra power may bring the 0-60 time closer to 6 seconds, which is my best guess.

Yeah, those headlights are projector HID's. A popular mod.
 

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Tan, screw the deisel. get out of the stone age! ;) 50 mpg is great till you can't go faster than 75mph. performance cars and deisel is not the preferred mix.

dR
Diesel is unfortunately a bastard child of gasoline. UK and Europe has a VW that is simply amazing. GTI diesel format. Granted it's not the accellerating demon like an WRX, but it's sure got some POP! One of the faster landspeed record was broken and attempted in a diesel powered rocket car. Diesel baby!! The new diesel will blow your mind.

Once you test drive an VW TDI, you won't go back...well...maybe you'll end up buying another car. :)
Anywoo...diesel is the most popular fuel in Europe. Don't knock it till you drive it.

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I only wish we had more here.

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Diesel is unfortunately a bastard child of gasoline. UK and Europe has a VW that is simply amazing. GTI diesel format. Granted it's not the accellerating demon like an WRX, but it's sure got some POP! One of the faster landspeed record was broken and attempted in a diesel powered rocket car. Diesel baby!! The new diesel will blow your mind.

Once you test drive an VW TDI, you won't go back...well...maybe you'll end up buying another car. :)
Anywoo...diesel is the most popular fuel in Europe. Don't knock it till you drive it.

:D

I only wish we had more here.

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i've driven the TDI, along with some older diesel mercedes. :p

the bottom line is that it is driven in EU more b/c fuel is too expensive, and the economy can't be beat. they've come up with all sorts of half brained attepts to make it a real sports car, but the combustion is just too inefficient. the same efforts on an unleaded gasoline fuel will always yield much cleaner, higher performance based results.

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Actually gasoline power engines are only about 20% efficient, with the rest being heat.

Diesels are more efficient than gasoline, about 10 to 20% more efficient.

THe higher compression (about 18.5:1) is a result of the huge stroke to bore ratio, resulting in its limited rev capabilities (low redline).
 

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tan said:
Actually gasoline power engines are only about 20% efficient, with the rest being heat.

Diesels are more efficient than gasoline, about 10 to 20% more efficient.

THe higher compression (about 18.5:1) is a result of the huge stroke to bore ratio, resulting in its limited rev capabilities (low redline).
Also, a diesel engine is a compression engine vs a combustion engine. Hence per volumn of fuel and air, it gets better mileage.

It's all good. We'll convert you gasoline lovers into diesel lovers soon enough :D

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Actually diesel is one of the crazes now in terms of sportscars as well. Just about every manufacturer is coming out with sporty drives that don't putter around like a Vespa. Just as an example:peugeot's Diamonds and Spades(diesel and petrol respectively) share the same platform. The petrol(1.8) puts out ~180hp and ~145lbs torque while the diesel(2.2L) puts out 175hp and a staggering ~300lbs of torque. Peugeot even made efforts to tune the exhaust sound(while maintaining functionality). So yes, diesels often smell and sound like scheiss, but they can hold their own.
Back to the original topic, I'm quite excited about the R32 in North America. It's about time we got a Haldex-4Motion Golf. Someone mentioned the 0-60 times...in UK, most reviewers averaged about six and a half secs. On the other hand, 0-60 is really a bragging rights figure and I'd much appreciate the tall first gear(the rex has an insanely short first that one would often get into second on a left turn from stop when you are just cruising along). My only concern is the lack of communication from the steering(which is a bit of a typical VW thing). Regardless I would love to have it alongside the rex. The rex would become the pure weekend, backroads passion and caged rallycar, while the R32 would be the street terror for those jaunting sprints to buy a quart of milk and a hand of bananas.
 
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