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What do you guys think about visual mods? How come you can get nice rims and a body kit, but as soon as you get street glow or altezzas you are a ricer? A visual mod is a visual mod is a visual mod. I think it is hypocritical to call someone a ricer because they like visual mods. How do you guys feel about this?
 

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I'm all for visual mods - but everybody has their personal taste. I don't bash on others for putting what they like on their car - in fact more power to them! However I have seen some things that I simply wouldn't pay good money for and bolt on my ride.

Personal expression is the reason that I'm forced to deal with my crippling disorder every day... I propose that we start a support group for those afflicted with, and those who must deal with those afflicted with:

Obsessive Automotive Modification Disorder. :D
 

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JimmyNY said:
What do you guys think about visual mods? How come you can get nice rims and a body kit, but as soon as you get street glow or altezzas you are a ricer? A visual mod is a visual mod is a visual mod. I think it is hypocritical to call someone a ricer because they like visual mods. How do you guys feel about this?
I think it depends on which body kits and wheels you get. Some of body kits (Prodrive comes to mind, and I believe C-West, Jun, and Greddy too, but I'm not sure so don't quote me) are actually wind-tunnel tested in order to improve performance. Granted, you probably won't see these gains until you're at higher speeds, but at least they were designed for a performance purpose along with visual appeal. The same goes for wheels...you can't go wrong with Volks because they're light weight, strong, and look so damn good...but there's a plethora of wheels out there that are heavy and just for looks. Wheel size also matters...19" wheels on our WRXs is a little much and would only be for show and not go...they look really good but don't expect to win many 1/4 mile races with them.

Altezza lights and street glow...those don't provide any performance enhancement whatsoever, and it's debatable per person whether they look good or not.

I'm a firm believer of to each their own...but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion of what I like or dislike :) Do whatever makes YOU happy, not what others happy! :D
 

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I don't think I'm a ricer- I don't like huge wings, extravagant body kits, or 20" wheels. But I do like street glow. I think its really cool what some people do with it. Have you ever seen the street glow contests they commonly have at (import) shows? I think that stuff looks cool. I would never do it, it costs too much, and I would never be able to use it. But if I came to these forums and said I put street glow on my rex, people would say 'he's a ricer, he doesn't have credibility' or something to that affect.
 

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JimmyNY said:
I don't think I'm a ricer- I don't like huge wings, extravagant body kits, or 20" wheels. But I do like street glow. I think its really cool what some people do with it. Have you ever seen the street glow contests they commonly have at (import) shows? I think that stuff looks cool. I would never do it, it costs too much, and I would never be able to use it. But if I came to these forums and said I put street glow on my rex, people would say 'he's a ricer, he doesn't have credibility' or something to that affect.
Personally, I think you'd get more of that type of response on a different forum *cough* I-Club *cough* rather than here...sure, you'll get people telling you it might be "ricey" but I think that the majority of us here are a lot more open-minded.
 

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Speak for yourself. And while your at it keep your openmindedness to yourself also! I prefer to be a closed-minded son of a ***** so LAY OFF!

btw just kidding...
 

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IMHO I don't like body kits AT ALL or big wings on WRX's. So you will not see my car with any of that. I do have the factory spoiler because I felt it wasn't too large or flashy. Also don't like STI badges on USDM WRX's. I like big rims and a bit of lowering though. I also do not like big melon can exhaust systems. Stickers on paint jobs are also a big NO in my book. All of my cars have been performance first. I have always started on performance mods before exterior things, but my NEW rims are the exception. Too each as own I guess. Remember this is just my opinion and I am not bashing anyone else. I just don't like "RICE."

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Verdugo

Speak for yourself. And while your at it keep your openmindedness to yourself also! I prefer to be a closed-minded son of a ***** so LAY OFF!

btw just kidding...
LOL :D
 

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Im sure what im gunna say is like cursing around here but for me my car is just about as fast as i want it stock. I dont race often (more like never) but I like making my car look as good as i can so yea I tinted the windows and got street glow I even got the big stereo. Im saving up for crome wheels because they look good. Yea im gunna get the exhaust and an airflow but thats about it I mean most people would only hope to be able to mod there car to be were mine is stock so ill keep my street glow stickers and melon can exhaust because im 18 and thats what most 18yr olds like.
 

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im 18 and thats what most 18yr olds like.
Along with the baggy jeans pulled down around your knees and boxer shorts sticking out the top. :)

I think the reason a lot of people are against some of that stuff is because of the WRX's heritage. It comes purely from a rally racing backround and is not known for slapping on 20" chrome rims, dropped suspensions, and altezza tail lights. The original WRX owners are familiar with this rally background and are protective of the car's reputation. Unfortunately, with the explosive popularity of the WRX it will probably end up in the hands of some people who may blemish that reputation of the car. I agree, anyone with the right amount of money in their hand can buy a WRX and my reason for buying one may be different than yours, however, I'm just trying to give you "the view" from the other side and explain why some people are close-minded when it comes to those types of visual mods. I went through that stage when I was 17/18 years old. I had an Escort GT that was "riced out". Now that I am older, I realize that was probably one of the most ridiculous looking cars on the road.
 

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Sherb said:
Any visual mods that don't improve performance is technically rice :).
I disagree.

My definition of rice is a distateful, tacky or sheep-like (read: follow the crowd) modification done primarily for visual reasons.

It's like wearing something to be cool.

But it's all opinion.
 

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Sherb said:
Any visual mods that don't improve performance is technically rice :).
I am proud to have most ricey car on ClubWRX! :D
 

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Style Hurts

First things First:

Everyone has their own opinion on what looks good. Its not like performance where you can measure the efficacy of a part. Visual mods are subjective.

I know a lot of people are always against riced out cars, espeically big exhausts, stickers and gigantic wings, for the most part so am I. But if you flip through an issue of Japanese Option, you'll see a ton of cars that looked "riced". Its just that often times they'll actually have the parts made by Blitz, HKS, Mine's, Endless, etc., not just the stickers. I think that makes a difference.

Lots of times its the cheap knockoff kits with bad paint and Powered by "x" stickers that make a car look riced out. I think a lot of people who are doing those things are younger kids who don't have access to expensive parts that are trying to emulate the cars they see in Option, Import Tuner or ClubWRX :) .

So I have a question to ask:

Do you think the US market should try to create its own style, or continuously try to copy the JDM look?

Not sure there's a right or wrong answer, but here's what I have to say:

The Japanese kits and rims look soooooo good. Zero sports, Volk Racing (18" CE-28N) etc., just exude quality. The US kits and rims tend to just be knockoffs instead of really trying to create its own look. Part of it may be that US aftermarket companies are only trying now to get on the import bandwagon and have to play catch up. Hopefully they'll decide to start their own trends that will have Japanese enthusiasts going for the USDM look. . .

Peace. . .
 

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Armin, I don't think your car is ricey.
 

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Flyboy said:
Armin, I don't think your car is ricey.
w00t! Why thank you :D
 

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Re: Style Hurts

Recca said:
First things First:

Everyone has their own opinion on what looks good. Its not like performance where you can measure the efficacy of a part. Visual mods are subjective.

I know a lot of people are always against riced out cars, espeically big exhausts, stickers and gigantic wings, for the most part so am I. But if you flip through an issue of Japanese Option, you'll see a ton of cars that looked "riced". Its just that often times they'll actually have the parts made by Blitz, HKS, Mine's, Endless, etc., not just the stickers. I think that makes a difference.

Lots of times its the cheap knockoff kits with bad paint and Powered by "x" stickers that make a car look riced out. I think a lot of people who are doing those things are younger kids who don't have access to expensive parts that are trying to emulate the cars they see in Option, Import Tuner or ClubWRX :) .

So I have a question to ask:

Do you think the US market should try to create its own style, or continuously try to copy the JDM look?

Not sure there's a right or wrong answer, but here's what I have to say:

The Japanese kits and rims look soooooo good. Zero sports, Volk Racing (18" CE-28N) etc., just exude quality. The US kits and rims tend to just be knockoffs instead of really trying to create its own look. Part of it may be that US aftermarket companies are only trying now to get on the import bandwagon and have to play catch up. Hopefully they'll decide to start their own trends that will have Japanese enthusiasts going for the USDM look. . .

Peace. . .
You've got a really great point here. As Bernard said, one of the latest fads in Japan is to use mis-match wheels...different wheels on the front and the rear. While I personally think this looks dumb, I'm sure a lot of people here will pick up on this style and try to emulate it (although I don't count a Honda steelie wheel in front and an ADR wheel in the rear counts).

I personally love the JDM look, and although I'd like to have my own style, it still uses JDM parts so whatever :)
 

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I disagree.

My definition of rice is a distateful, tacky or sheep-like (read: follow the crowd) modification done primarily for visual reasons.

It's like wearing something to be cool.

But it's all opinion.
WELL PUT! :)
 

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Sherb said:
Any visual mods that don't improve performance is technically rice :).
Nonsense. There is no "technically rice".

Flyboy - I think a lot of the things you said sound a little pompous. But I don't think you meant them to sound that way. For example, it would ruin the WRXs reputation if the 'wrong' people would get the car. Frankly, the WRX doesn't have a 'better' reputation than any Acura. It may be more respected - but there are just as many *******s driving WRXs as there are driving hondas.

I think maybe the appeal of the WRX is to an older audience, however, because it is more of a family sedan and less extravagent looking in the first place.
 
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