Ultra performance all-season tires with grip

Personally I would opt for summers.

If you are dead set on all seasons I've heard good things about the Michelin pilot sport a/s as well as the Conti dws06. Do keep in mind that they will leave quite a bit to be desired compared to ultra high performance summer tires.

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XJman said:

Personally I would opt for summers.

If you are dead set on all seasons I've heard good things about the Michelin pilot sport a/s as well as the Conti dws06. Do keep in mind that they will leave quite a bit to be desired compared to ultra high performance summer tires.

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I’m leaning towards a set of Sumitomo HTR Z 3’s. The last time I had Sumitomos they held the pavement very well. Thoughts?


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I've never heard the name Sumitomo outside of a machine shop. Their drills are top shelf stuff. I have no idea if that relates to tires though.

No such thing.

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I've always wondered how the worst summers compare to the best all-seasons in terms of dry and wet grip and braking. I bet the best of the all seasons are stickier than yesteryear's summers. The Michelins crash and bang on potholes like actual summers and they're really nice and sticky at practically any temperature. I like them.

+1 for Michelin pilot sport AS 3+
IMO they are not as good in hard cornering as the OEM summers but do grip very well.
They have slower initial turn in prob because of the higher tread blocks but if you dont suddenly overpower them (like with a quick sharp yank of the wheel) they stick quite well. I could easily drive them all year round, but as others have said, there is no substitute for winter performance in snow and summer tires in the warm months.

I just talked to the person last week that I believe is most knowledgeable on comparative tires/brands, e.g. Luke Pavlick at TireRack (574) 287-2345; ext. 4362‬. He is a hot fodder himself, has many decades experience in choosing tires for spirited driving vehicles — both at his work and for his own cars.

I specifically asked him which tires I should put on my ‘17 WRX for while I drive it hard at times, I also need all season capacity when I go over the Rockies now and then in the fall/early spring. No hesitation on his part, e.g., Michelin A/S 3+.

They are what I am going to get for my WRX in the next month or so.

I admit I like the Michelin!

They don’t come in my size though (225/50/16).

Anybody run 235/45/17 on 17X8 +48, GD sedan stock height KYB AGX? If so I can get the AS3 Michelin! Wondering? TIA

Just removed the factory Dunlops and installed Michelin A/S 3+‘s. Perfect for our trips across mountains during iffy times of the year (though we still have a dedicated, second set of winters/tires which has Michelin X-Ice i3’s for when we go through near blizzards).

Hellkat said:

I live in the mountains, my girlfriend and son live in the mountains - simply put, LOTS of turns. That stated, California has had a pretty hot winter - so it’s about time to switch from my Nokians to all season. I’m looking for ultra performance all seasons with the highest amount of grip possible. I chose Nokian because they were so highly recommend - so I look to you guys for help with my A/S, I burned out my summers in about 15k miles. Thanks in advance.

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General GMax A/S. Best performance all/season on the market currently. they have great ratings across the board, only $135 per tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...baru&autoYear=2016&autoModel=WRX&autoModClar=

CTSubieNoob said:

General GMax A/S. Best performance all/season on the market currently. they have great ratings across the board, only $135 per tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...baru&autoYear=2016&autoModel=WRX&autoModClar=

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Bridgestone, Michelin, conti, BFG, and Dunlop alll offer superior all around all season tires.

General really offers great tires on a budget, however their stand outs will always be their all terrain and mt tires.

Outside of the Michelin Pilot AS 3 and Continental DWS 06, I've heard good things about the Dunlop Signature HP and the Sumitomo HTR A/S PO2 as well. Those were the ones I looked at before ending up getting another set of Summers (Michelin Pilot Sport 4S). I decided to keep my winter set instead of selling them off and just keep on swapping if it snows really badly - which in DC is pretty rare.

I don't know why people diss the stock Dunlops (SPT's). They have an insane amount of grip (even in the rain) compared to any other tire I've ever had.

I think my prior WRX had Conti AWT's. They were fine as far as I'm concerned. My BMW had Potenzas, which were also good.

I ran some used Blizzaks the last 2 winters, but unfortunately they are too worn to use another season. I only use about 4 months out of the year--have read good things about the Generals, so may go that route next winter. (I have 17" STI tires for winter use.)

CTSubieNoob said:

General GMax A/S. Best performance all/season on the market currently. they have great ratings across the board, only $135 per tire.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...baru&autoYear=2016&autoModel=WRX&autoModClar=

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I popped General G-Max AS-05's on my summer wheels and, with proper air pressure, they handle exceptionally well. Granted, we haven't had scorching heat, yet, but I was very impressed with how they performed with temps in the 60's and 70's. Not quite equal to the Dunlop summers they replaced, but the discernible difference in hard street driving was minuscule. Driving in rain they perform exceptionally well. They do have a hum, though. My only concern is the possibility the hum will get worse at the tread wears.

Do you guys remember the ad tune from General: ¶Sooner or later, you'll own Generals¶