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Ok all... for those of you who don't know much about Opti-coat (OC) I have started this thread to discuss it. There are several members here who have done their own cars already as well as myself. Subaru and Japanese car paint has a notorious problem of very soft and thin paint. Partially because of their laws about emissions over there from what I understand, but whatever the reason, this stuff is excellent to add to the paint to give it some extra hardness and protection. Other members can chime in with their experiences as well.

I am in no way affiliated with Optimum, nor do I work for any company (other than working as a detailer on my own) so I have no sponsors or anything of the sort.

Claims that Optimum makes:

1. A layer of OC 2.0 is appoximately 2 microns thick (about 100 layers of your average wax)
2. Once fully cured OC hardness is at a level 9h hardness
3. OC is scratch resistant (not scratch proof!)
4. OC is claimed to be a permanent coating... it's not, but with care you can get 2 years or more out of it.
5. Waxes and sealants will not stick well to OC. I spoke with someone from Optimum and his response about what would last longer than other products was Optimum's Opti-seal (I have never tried it). They claimed it to last 2-3 months on OC if one wanted added slickness.
6. OC will spot fairly badly, with city water, hard water, etc etc dry the car IMMEDIATELY after washing.
7. As I read from an interview with one of the higher ups at Optimum... it is said that Opti-coat does not break down under most extreme heat, so it may be used on wheels, exhausts (which one member here has done) brake calipers, underhood plastics, wheel well plastics or metals, outside plastics around mirrors, between pillars, etc.
8. ANY area that is to be coated MUST be cleaned thoroughly with a mixture of alcohol and water. (I used 50/50 but less alcohol can be used) You can also add 1-2 small drops of standard dish soap to ensure all oils are cleaned from the area to be done.
9. OC is not a slick finish once fully cured and not a beauty type of product, but a nice clean car always brings out good looks from it IMO.
10. OC will not stick to itself once cured (also from the same interview with Optimum I read). It is claimed however that a slight polishing will rough it up enough to add a layer to it.
11. The only ways of getting OC off of your finish are a full polish, sanding, or special chemical removal.
12. To get the best look, either get your car fully polished and paint straight and looking the way you want before adding OC, so you can have that look "locked" in, or do the car when it's brand new... make sure you look it over well and be certain you are happy with how the paint looks prior to adding OC.


As I said, several other members have done their cars and can also chime in with their experience. With this type of paint being so easily chipped and scratched I highly do recommend this product.
 

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I did the Opti-Coat yesterday. I did not polish, as I only got the car 3 weeks ago. I did give it a VERY thorough wash, it was significantly nicer than when I picked it up. Application was not as easy as everyone else said, at least at first. Couple of pointers I wish I had had were to be CERTAIN that your light is sufficient, and to start on a small panel first.

Light wise, I tried doing it in my front garage, to try to get out of the heat, but I could not get enough light to work with. Once I rolled the car out half way from the garage, into the shade made by the garage, I had much better success seeing what I was doing.

My other mistake was starting with the roof. I followed the instructions on the package, but the initial amount I put on the pad was only enough for about 1/4 of the roof. I would suggest starting with a fender, to get a feel for the amount that you need to put on the pad for adequate coverage.

One thing that I did, especially because I could not see the product flashing/high spots at first, was to wipe the entire panel down lightly with a microfiber towel about 5 minutes after application. It seems to have worked, because I can see no high spots today.

But, without a doubt, the worst thing about Opti-Coat is the applicator. I have big hands, and had a very hard time holding onto it. Many times, it folded over itself, or jumped out of my hand when I got to a tacky spot. If I could tell the folks who make Opti-Coat to improve one thing, it would be the applicator.

Now for the good. THIS STUFF WORKS. My dad was very skeptical of it, thinking that it was too difficult to apply and would leave visible high spots, all said and done he is very impressed by it. My method of wiping the entire panel ensured that I would have no high spots. He also didn't think it would be as good at repelling water as a good coat of Mothers. Today, I hit the hood and fender with a hose and both he and I were shocked at how the water just jumps off the panels. 3 minutes with a microfiber towel and the panels were completely dry with no water spotting. Now my dad is planning on using the remaining 10 cc's on his 350z.

I can't wait for the car to get a little dirty, so I can see how effective it is when I go for the first wash.

On a side note, I just hit 950 miles. SO CLOSE. I'll be honest, I've been hitting 5,000 rpm every now and then for the last 50 or so miles, but I am not concerned. I am going to use my free oil change sometime this next week, and then it will be warp speed from there.

On a side note to the side note, I drove my dad's 350z around a bit today. I can't wait to get a short throw shifter, other than that, I think I prefer my Scooby (Ok, the low end torque on the VQ35HR is addictive as well).
 

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I just read that with Opti Coat "You can seamlessly layer the coating on full panels and spot repairs for around 30 days or until it's fully hardened."

I think I might layer some areas after I wash the car next weekend. Get a really good coat on the front clip to protect from life.
 

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I just read that with Opti Coat "You can seamlessly layer the coating on full panels and spot repairs for around 30 days or until it's fully hardened."

I think I might layer some areas after I wash the car next weekend. Get a really good coat on the front clip to protect from life.

I have not read anything about layering it on without using some sort of light polish so that the OC can stick to something since it won't stick to itself.... perhaps it will though, I have not had any luck.

I put my OC on my car at about 800 miles I guess... so far now at almost 3k I have no sandblasting and no chips on the front of the car so I don't know that I would worry to much about layering.. but hey, if it makes you feel good about it then by all means go for it.
 

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I did the Opti-Coat yesterday ... ... Today, I hit the hood and fender with a hose and both he and I were shocked at how the water just jumps off the panels.
Aren't we supposed to wait a week or two before trying to wash the car? I don't think it's fully cured until several days/weeks after applying...

But, without a doubt, the worst thing about Opti-Coat is the applicator. I have big hands, and had a very hard time holding onto it. Many times, it folded over itself, or jumped out of my hand when I got to a tacky spot. If I could tell the folks who make Opti-Coat to improve one thing, it would be the applicator.
+1 Dude I dropped that applicator more times than I can count. Good thing I took note of some unique characteristic of the side I put the stuff on, or I would have been wiping the car with the wrong side of the applicator half the time.
 

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On a side note, I have a bit of my IPA solution left over in the squirt bottle. Is it OK to use this on small areas of paint after washing the car?

I noticed that our cars continue to drip water for almost an entire friggin day after washing it and it leaves little soap spots all over my rocker panels/side skirts. I guess the doors drain down through little tiny holes at the bottom of the door panels, and this just drips all over the car if the doors are closed. I figured out that the IPA solution makes short work of them once they have dried, but I'm wondering if there's any harm to the OC when I do this.
 

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On a side note, I have a bit of my IPA solution left over in the squirt bottle. Is it OK to use this on small areas of paint after washing the car?

I noticed that our cars continue to drip water for almost an entire friggin day after washing it and it leaves little soap spots all over my rocker panels/side skirts. I guess the doors drain down through little tiny holes at the bottom of the door panels, and this just drips all over the car if the doors are closed. I figured out that the IPA solution makes short work of them once they have dried, but I'm wondering if there's any harm to the OC when I do this.
Nope, it won't hurt it at all. There are tests where even acid was applied to OC and it didn't get it off so alcohol definitely won't matter. You just have to blow dry those areas out really well. Some people choose to use megs or some other quick detailer after or during drying.
 

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did any of you guys find good deals on this stuff? or did you just pay retail. i'm very interested in this. being on my second black car :)
 

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did any of you guys find good deals on this stuff? or did you just pay retail. i'm very interested in this. being on my second black car :)
I purchased straight through Detailer's Domain.
 

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Detailersdomain.com and add the coupon code Evom for a 10% discount.
 

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My earlier quote was directly from an Optimum rep on a detailing forum, you are good to layer for 30 days or so. Also, you are safe from water in an hour, and to wash in 1 day, they say wait a week before using other detergents though.

Best deal I found was a place offering free shipping.
 

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My earlier quote was directly from an Optimum rep on a detailing forum, you are good to layer for 30 days or so. Also, you are safe from water in an hour, and to wash in 1 day, they say wait a week before using other detergents though.

Best deal I found was a place offering free shipping.
Have you tried to layer OC over another layer before? I have and it doesn't seem to flash away at all. I think it should be noted that supposedly, layering OC really doesn't have much of a benefit... can't prove that, just have seen a few very good detailers say it.
 

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Have you tried to layer OC over another layer before? I have and it doesn't seem to flash away at all. I think it should be noted that supposedly, layering OC really doesn't have much of a benefit... can't prove that, just have seen a few very good detailers say it.
I'll also add that if you want to layer it, you might be better off to add some permanon platinum to it.. the ease of application is excellent since you seemed to have some difficulty with it.
 

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I'll also add that if you want to layer it, you might be better off to add some permanon platinum to it.. the ease of application is excellent since you seemed to have some difficulty with it.
Whoa, what is Permanon? It sounds just like OC... :confused:
 

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Whoa, what is Permanon? It sounds just like OC... :confused:
It's a nano coating that is sprayed on and then wiped off... it's more expensive and doesn't last as long as OC from what I understand. However, some people I believe have used it over OC since it will supposedly bond to anything and OC is a resin type coating and not a nano.

There are many types of coatings... Aquartz and Cquartz (I believe the same company and product possibly) C4, Permanon, OC of course. Thus far out of everything i've read the OC is overall more preferred as a whole since it lasts longer than any of the above mentioned which is why I went with it.


Note: there is a video on you tube of one detailer who wraps his OC applicator in a blue shop towel.. seems to work pretty well for anyone who's getting to much of a grabbing problem.
 

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Hey,

I just ordered some OC. My 12 WRX is only about 2 weeks old, only 501 on the ODO (It spent about 7 days at the airport)! Anyway, last week I washed, then hit it up with the clay bar. Paint still looks great. I then took it in and had the 3M clear bra put on it. The clear bra looks great, It's hard to see in a lot of the places they install it. Anyway, I hear you can apply wax over the clear bra, but what I am wondering is has anyone applied a product like OC over this? I have to admit, that having had other types of clear bra's on older cars, I really like the way the new 3m bra looks by comparison. They covered, more or less the entire front of the car, the front bumper, headlights, mirrors, about 1/3 of the hood and the scoop. Plus they installed it under the door handles and the rear quarter panels near the wheels. No bubbles or anything and this was at the dealer. The only thing I can see if I look for it is on the hood. None of my friends have even noticed it.

Edit, well I guess I should have looked around before I asked this question.

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/waxes-sealants-lsps/39070-question-about-opti-coat-clear-bra.html

It appears that you can apply it over the clear bra. I will probably test it out on a section of the car such as the clear bra underneath the door handles. I will let you know what I find out. I plan on using the application method mentioned above, I also found that on YouTube.
 

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Hey,

I just ordered some OC. My 12 WRX is only about 2 weeks old, only 501 on the ODO (It spent about 7 days at the airport)! Anyway, last week I washed, then hit it up with the clay bar. Paint still looks great. I then took it in and had the 3M clear bra put on it. The clear bra looks great, It's hard to see in a lot of the places they install it. Anyway, I hear you can apply wax over the clear bra, but what I am wondering is has anyone applied a product like OC over this? I have to admit, that having had other types of clear bra's on older cars, I really like the way the new 3m bra looks by comparison. They covered, more or less the entire front of the car, the front bumper, headlights, mirrors, about 1/3 of the hood and the scoop. Plus they installed it under the door handles and the rear quarter panels near the wheels. No bubbles or anything and this was at the dealer. The only thing I can see if I look for it is on the hood. None of my friends have even noticed it.

Edit, well I guess I should have looked around before I asked this question.

Question about Opti-Coat and clear bra - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum

It appears that you can apply it over the clear bra. I will probably test it out on a section of the car such as the clear bra underneath the door handles. I will let you know what I find out. I plan on using the application method mentioned above, I also found that on YouTube.
I went over the door areas on my car with OC where they had the OE 3m covering on it... didn't seem to be an issue. I would just clean it very well and make sure it's free of all oils or anything else that may prevent it from sticking.
 
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