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last night i was taking my cousin home when we saw a white newer style supra at a stop light. I turn around since i never run into supras and I want to see what the STi will do. after i turn around and catch him, I pace him a few times, but he doesnt bite. Finally we both turn left and he catches up to me and we are going about 30-35 mph. we both nail it and i jump a car length instantly. We shut down around 95 and I had around 3 car lengths on him. I dont know his mods, all i saw was an exhaust. anyways i was happy that I beat him from a roll, since i thought i would get beat if it wasnt from a stop.
 

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last night i was taking my cousin home when we saw a white newer style supra at a stop light. I turn around since i never run into supras and I want to see what the STi will do. after i turn around and catch him, I pace him a few times, but he doesnt bite. Finally we both turn left and he catches up to me and we are going about 30-35 mph. we both nail it and i jump a car length instantly. We shut down around 95 and I had around 3 car lengths on him. I dont know his mods, all i saw was an exhaust. anyways i was happy that I beat him from a roll, since i thought i would get beat if it wasnt from a stop.
Good kill!... do you have any mods on your STi?? cuz i thought TT Supras were monsters from a roll?
 

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last night i was taking my cousin home when we saw a white newer style supra at a stop light. I turn around since i never run into supras and I want to see what the STi will do. after i turn around and catch him, I pace him a few times, but he doesnt bite. Finally we both turn left and he catches up to me and we are going about 30-35 mph. we both nail it and i jump a car length instantly. We shut down around 95 and I had around 3 car lengths on him. I dont know his mods, all i saw was an exhaust. anyways i was happy that I beat him from a roll, since i thought i would get beat if it wasnt from a stop.
Perhaps it was not a Turbo, if you are stock and you put 3 cars on a Supra its probably an NA. A stock turbo supra will probably trap around the same as a stock STI if not a little higher so from a roll it would have been a very close race. And if it was a turbo and had exhaust it would have probably been BPU which means its gonna blow your doors off.
 

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if it wasnt i turbo i would have smoked the hell out of it. It might have been less than 3 car lengths i wasnt really counting.
 

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I dont know...... I am not going to say it was an N/A supra because you would have destroyed it a lot more. but logically you shouldn't pull on the turbo supra though. A well driven STi will trap right around 105mph where as a well driven supra will trap between 105-107mph. So trap speed is real close, but supra has the definate edge here. Not to mention, not to many people ONLY put a catback on a Supra... Its nearly unheard of actually. If he had a catback he was probably BPU ATLEAST, which would mean he would be trapping near 108-109mph.

Considering your only mod is a catback I am going to go ahead and assume that he was not really racing. And with this car, the "maybe it was auto" argument does not apply. The auto's still 13.5-13.7 and trap at 105mph. Either he was in a bad gear and just gave up real quick or was not really giving it his all.



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you never know, maybe it was just a catback, he had a kind of ricey wing on there. I heard a turbo so i dont think it was N/A, but I agree I was expecting to get beat from a roll pretty bad. The more i think about it, it probably wasnt 3 cars, but like I said I wasnt really paying attention to that. I got the jump first because I hit it first, we didnt honk or anything. maybe it WAS an auto?
 

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Nice Kill!! I was under the impression that those supras are nuts from roll races, but gotta hand to it to you. I'm gonna hunt them tt supras now...j/k
 

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i believe auto tt supras are faster than manual ones. i know in most cases manual cars are faster, but not with the tt subra. Someone correct me if i am wrong
 

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most of the supras i see at the dragstrip here (5800 ft) are running high 13's-low 14's. My STi runs mid 13's up here.
 

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Drew303 said:
most of the supras i see at the dragstrip here (5800 ft) are running high 13's-low 14's. My STi runs mid 13's up here.
sounds about right. Here at sea level most well driven supras pull off 13.4's and most well driven STi's pull off 13.1's.

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i believe auto tt supras are faster than manual ones. i know in most cases manual cars are faster, but not with the tt subra. Someone correct me if i am wrong
As far as modding the supra, the auto is def. the way to go. But as for stock, the 6speed still tends to stay a step ahead of the auto.... most 6speeds car be found in the area of 13.3-13.6 where as most auto are around 13.5-13.8
Its the same with camaro's, Mustangs, vettes, 300zx and most other high powered cars also. the manual trans is a few ticks ahead, but once you start modding the auto becomes the faster and often 'better" transmission.



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Good kill man :thumbup: . I know sometimes it's hard to tell how much you beat a person by. I always count my car as a car length and then each space afterwards a car length so if a car I beat was a car length from my rear bumper I say I beat them by 2 cars cause well it's true haha. But non the less you know you beat him by a decent margin, congrats.
 

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nice kill.....my friend has a tt supra and starting at 30-35mph while his in 2nd and your in 2nd is a great place for you...and i think you can do what you did especially since its up to 95..i've been in my friends car plenty of times when he redlines 1st and 2nd and almost 3rd..but i think my car (basically stage 2wrx) pulls as hard 1st and 2nd(i've never raced him)...but i've also been in his car on the freeway...and well...that things pulls real hard after 90mph...sounds awesome too
 

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i believe auto tt supras are faster than manual ones. i know in most cases manual cars are faster, but not with the tt subra. Someone correct me if i am wrong
Yes they are faster because they don't lose boost while shifting.
 

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I got the jump first because I hit it first, we didnt honk or anything.
There's you answer right there. Two equal cars with basically the same trap speeds - one gets the jump. The rest is history. You can't make up lost momentum with no power advantage. Its pretty obvious...
 

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Dumb question here: :rolleyes:

Why some of you guys keep referring to the quarter mile times and trap speeds for each car (from a dig) when Drew raced his STi from a roll? Is the quarter mile a determining factor when talking about racing from a roll? :confused:

I've heard of Supras being 'monsters' when it comes to racing from a roll but anything is possible in the world of street racing, so it would have been close, if anything. My guess is the guy probably didn't know how to race from a roll.
 

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Dumb question here: :rolleyes:

Why some of you guys keep referring to the quarter mile times and trap speeds for each car (from a dig) when Drew raced his STi from a roll? Is the quarter mile a determining factor when talking about racing from a roll? :confused:

I've heard of Supras being 'monsters' when it comes to racing from a roll but anything is possible in the world of street racing, so it would have been close, if anything. My guess is the guy probably didn't know how to race from a roll.
Quarter mile times are fairly irrelevant when racing from a roll. Trap speeds, however, are very relevant IMO.

Look at my post above yours. Two cars with equal trap speeds, and one car gets the pop - its obvious who's going to win. You can't make up that kind of momentum.
 

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onoitsaWRX said:
Dumb question here: :rolleyes:

Why some of you guys keep referring to the quarter mile times and trap speeds for each car (from a dig) when Drew raced his STi from a roll? Is the quarter mile a determining factor when talking about racing from a roll? :confused:

I've heard of Supras being 'monsters' when it comes to racing from a roll but anything is possible in the world of street racing, so it would have been close, if anything. My guess is the guy probably didn't know how to race from a roll.
1/4 mile TIMES wont tell much of what will happen in a rolling race, (take the typeR vs WRX for example) but 1/4 mile SPEEDS will tell a lot. Trap speed is a great indicator of how a car will perform on the topend.. ofcourse there are other factors such as gear ratios and such, but without getting into too much depth, the trap speed is a great indicator. Just for example, wrx vs type R in 1/4mile both well driven. type R will run 14.8 and wrx will run 14.2 WRX WINS RACE. but then look at trap speeds... notice how they both trap almost exactly the samewith the TypeR maye 1mph higher than the rex, even though the wrx won by half a seconds and several car lengths... do you think its just a coincidence that they also happen to run right next to each other on the highway with the typeR getting the advantage and winning once speeds near 90+mph
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Good kill, I believe you. I'm too lazy to do a search, but a few months ago I posted a race with a TT Supra that I beat, and I was still at Stage 2 at the time. Hard to belive, but it was true. The Supra driver called a friend of mine on NASIOC the next day to try let him know his a$$ was toast, he thought it was my friend that had raced him. The reason the Supra driver was so pissed was not because his car lost, but because he got pulled by the cops after I turned off and got a street racing ticket & a drug charge because he had some tasty snacks in the car.

Edit: Okay I'm not that lazy...
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=70250
 
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