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I bought an 04 STI and it blew up shortly after getting. I was mad at first but then realized that It needed a good rebuild. I bought wiesco pistons and manley rods, a new turbo and a few other things. The car already had some good mods done to it. I plan on alteast getting 450whp. I was wondering if getting a stage 2 or 3 cam would help me reach or go past this goal? and If I did would the subaru dealership be able to install that and heavy duty valve springs easily?
 

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Welcome... Sorry to hear about your engine failure... What kind of turbo and size of pistons did you buy? I personally would wait on purchasing parts till your block is torn down that way you'll know what your looking at...
 

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I wouldn't be contracting Subaru for this task.
 

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your dealership is capable of installing the cams and valve springs but the labor rate will kill you. If you have a cherry picker and an engine stand it isnt all that hard to install them. A lisle or snap-on valve spring remover/installer takes minutes to redo your springs and keepers.
 

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You are better off going with a tuner shop in your area that knows building Subarus for performance. Also...it would be in your best interest to discuss options/possibilities/preferences with whomever your tuner is. Many have specifics they like and tune better for certain parts.
 

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I trust Subaru to do the valves and springs as well as the cams. They are all mechanics and have plenty of expierence. I plan on having the car tuned at Agile which is not to far away about 2 and a half hours. I think the cams should be good as long as agile knows about them during the tune.
 

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We're just saying you might find cheaper labor which is more specific to performance upgrades...

I had my first STI tuned at Agile by Hill. He does great work.
 

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I trust Subaru to do the valves and springs as well as the cams. They are all mechanics and have plenty of expierence. I plan on having the car tuned at Agile which is not to far away about 2 and a half hours. I think the cams should be good as long as agile knows about them during the tune.
Why not have Agile do the work so they will warranty it?
 

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Why not have Agile do the work so they will warranty it?


That's a big advantage of having your tuning/mechanical work done in one place. If something goes wrong there's no one to pass the blame to. Where as if you have your machine work done one place, assembly done somewhere else, then have a third person tune the car.. the tuner blames the assembly, the assembler blames the tune/machine shop, the machine shop blames everyone else, and you get no where.


If you have the dealership build the engine, then someone else tunes it and the engine blows I can guarantee the dealership is going to blame the tune.. and likely the tuner is going to blame the dealership for improper assembly.



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Well its worth a shot to atleast call agile and see what they say and if its cheaper then hey why not. I could have the engine built at agile and have subaru put it together.
 

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I called agile and based on other invoices they said it would be around $3,500 to do the build and put the engine back into my car. That price also included the tune and they said that the price they gave me was probbly higher than what it would actually be.
 
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