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Hello all...just got a new WRX...boy is it amazing...I am a stick novice however. The only problem I have is the common neutral to first stall. I am usually scared to stall so i rev the engine up to like 4k and then let the clutch go....then I get a huge buck and it feels pretty wicked. How much gas should I give it with respect to letting up on the clutch...I am sure its all about the practice.

Also...what is happening when you grind a gear...actaully...how do u go about grinding a gear. I did it once...it was horrifying...i dont know how I did it...but that was the first day that I ever drove it!!! I am better now...

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Grinding gears happens when you dont have the clutch pressed in all the way, or you put it in gear, and its not there yet and you let out. Just make sure you :Clutch IN, hold it, gear, clutch out.

For your first driving exp. in the car, you should just take shifting slowly until you get fully use to it.

As for the rev comment.. well you should really have to go any higher then 2K at all. and whatever you do.. DO NOT go over 4K AT ALL until the first 1000 miles of the car. Proper break in is necassary or you wont like the results down the road.


My advice to you, is practice a little bit more, take it slow until you get use to it.

Welcome to the club!!

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the trick to a smooth take off is a steady increase in gas, while also applying a steady release of the clutch.

doing this in synch will yield a smooth take off. the more gas/faster clutch release dictates how fast the takeoff will be. so a slow steady clutch release with a slow steady throttle application will give you a nice smooth start. sometimes when learning it's good to give it little revs before you let out the clutch, but you shouldn't need to go up to 4k. 2k should be plenty.

and also heed what b99gt said about breaking her in. keep the rpms below 4k when driving, and try to stay out of boost.

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AK,

Driving a stick is very difficult to learn simply by reading about it and practicing on your own. You need to get someone who KNOWS how to drive a stick to sit next to you in the passengers seat and explain to you what you are doing wrong and what you are doing right.

Find this person, go to an empty parking lot, practice finding the "biting point" without touching the gas. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Once you know where the "biting point" is, the rest is all repetition. After you master starting out on a flat surface 30 or 40 times, find a slight incline and do it ten more times, then find a steeper incline.

This is how I teach people to drive a stick and my students LEARN FAST.

Also, the WRX is pretty easy to learn in since the clutch has a very distinct biting point and the flat-four is VERY tough to stall. The only car that is easier to learn on IMO is a VW Beetle (old beetle).

-Jim

ps. Why is this in the suspension forum? (I'm going to move it to powertrain now.)
 

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I just learned how to drive stick myself. Stalled once on the street and that scared the crap out of me...

Here is my best attempt to explain it...

DOOO ITTT SLOOOOOOWWWW... Hold down the accelerator very lightly, like you aren't even trying to push it down. The engine should rev very slowly. Begint o release the clutch slowly toowhen you feel the grip, let off the the clutch and give it very little gas.....

Terrible explination. :p

Just do it and get used to moving two feet. You can do things slowly, don't worry about the guy behind you your car is probably nicer than his. :D

Payce and goodluck.

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This may sound stupid, but try practicing with you shoes off. You get a lot more feel for the car. If you wear running shoes, or something else with a lot of padding, you lose a lot of feel for the pedals.

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Try this:

Dont even give the car gas at all, just dont even put your foot near the gas petal. Now begin to let out the clutch slowly, and I mean very slowly, (you'll probably want to be in a parking lot when doing this one), dont even have your foot on the gas. Now when you begin to feel or hear the motor grab, catch, or sound like it is loosing power, then let it out even slower still while having your foot off of the gas. Soon the REX will start to move a little and when it does then you can begin to start giving it gas.

This should give you a good feel for the clutch on how quickly it catches. Once you do this one a couple of times you should be a little more confident in taking it out on the road. This might of sounded retarted but hey it worked for me. Give it a shot and let me know how its goin.

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good pointers folks. i've also heard learning to start in reverese is helpful, becasue mentally, you are concentrating on looking behind you, and you brain just does what it knows to be right.


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PlatinumWRX said:

Also, the WRX is pretty easy to learn in since the clutch has a very distinct biting point and the flat-four is VERY tough to stall. The only car that is easier to learn on IMO is a VW Beetle (old beetle).
Jim revs my car too much (with only 200 miles on the odometer)...despite the 4500 rpm redline.

You got used to my car pretty quick didn't you (except for the stall trying to launch my car on the Newtown Bypass)
 

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the input...my driving has improved 10-fold...one more quick question. Is the parking brake on a 5-speed car more diesel than one in an automatic? It just seems that sometimes in my old auto Honda I could drive off with the e-brake and not even know it. Is it safe to use it on a hill when you don't want to roll backwards and stall?

Thanks again.
 

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AK,

Don't rely on the parking brake to start off up a hill in the WRX. It is a very strong PB compared to most cars and you WILL stall the car trying to do this. Also, it requires more coordination than just doing it right, which is to say using the clutch and the gas in balance to keep the car stationary until it is time to go. Practice this technique on a very steep hill and you'll mail it down. I'm glad we could help a 5-speed newbie. I wish we had more people like you in the US because manual transmission are a dying breed. Of course, we may be on the verge of a sports car resurgance with the 350Z, RX-8, and GT40 on the way (some sooner than others). Let's hope so!

Tan,

Your car would be horrible to learn stick on because it is TOO easy to drive. You don't even have to touch the gas to get the Golf TDI rolling. It's SO WEIRD. You just let the clutch out smoothly THEN press the accelerator. I'm still confused!

-Jim
 

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Thanks Plat...i'll try to find a STEEP hill. Actually, I have been doing that...I get scared as hell when I start rolling back because I dont want to hit the guy behind me (sometimes people pull up insanely close). Also...I have to do a lot of parallel parking where im from...say i am rolling backwards in to a spot. Is it ok to be rolling with my foot on the clutch in order not to stall from going to slow in reverse? Or is this bad for the clutch? Same thing with pulling forward. Basically, is it ok to roll with the clutch disengaged? If so, what is the definition of "riding the clutch"? Thanks again all.
 

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Funny, most people ask how to launch the car, not the other way around.:)

Platinum - I thought the GT40 was just a pipe dream that will never see the light of day? Has there been some confirmation?
 

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USe the parking to learn how to start from a hill. As you get used to it, you'll less the parking brake less often.

Plat: 8000 more miles til I get it chipped. My car is great for idling through traffic. Carefully release the clutch fully, and it will idle along!!!!
 

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I don't know about the rest of you, but my wrx when new, was easy to stall. All the wrx's I tested were easy to stall, and the first gear was a PITA to get used to. I learned a little stick before by messing with my friends beat up escort and my other friends over muscled AMC Spirit.

As long as you let the clutch out slow and smooth to get used to it (not all the time or you will need a new clutch soon), the stick is easy to learn. I got over the fear of reving too hard when my left foot got stronger and faster on the clutch.
 

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Hmm... I just stalled my WRX today in fact. ;)

Anyways, I was just wondering how fast the clutch action should occur. Something between side-stepping it and slow? I think I've been thinking about shifting a bit too hard lately and getting unsmooth again... Or else I have some cold clutch shudder. :/

-snowcat
 
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