I agree.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/...video-review-2017-volkswagen-golf-gti-se.html
I still think the WRX is the better bang for the buck.
Reliability is indeed questionable. I will not buy any VAG product at this point, even those not made in Germany (and I extend this to bikes; no Ducatis for me).Plus VW reliability and even honesty is questionable...
It can be heavy-handed or austere at times but it is very attractive usually, I agree.That said, I really like the interior styling. I'm a fan of the teutonic clean and refined design.
I like the GTI interior a lot. I drove a Tiguan for awhile as a rental and was not as impressed.When it comes to fit, finish and flat interior feel for the price VW is hard to beat. Even the cheapest VW has a surprisingly nice quality feel. I am not sold at all on the reliability factor of the car in general, but if you want to have the best interior for the money I genuinely feel VW can't be beat.
I can promise you that would have happened regardless of the vehicle, it was less the vehicle he was in and more coming in hot to a wet dirty corner. AWD wouldn't have done anything to stop as he had no steering. AWD doesn't add traction, it just distributes it better among 4 wheels making the most of available tire grip on a hard acceleration. Thats why it kills in WRC.
As far as VW's honesty. I can assure you, they were just the ones that got caught. That type of thing isn't unique among vehicle manufacturers, or even suppliers.
Subaru offers their diesel engine in the Outback and Forester. The Outback may be lighter/smaller; it gets around 5.5L per 100 km fuel consumption whereas the Forester is a bit higher at 5.7L per 100 km. I think that's mixed cycle use but am unsure. In any case, Subaru do offer diesels.Re' VW's scandal other manufacturers have lied about mileage issues--the worst cases seem to be almost exclusively with European manufacturers and diesel engines, which of course Subaru doesn't have.
OK, but not in the US...Subaru offers their diesel engine in the Outback and Forester. The Outback may be lighter/smaller; it gets around 5.5L per 100 km fuel consumption whereas the Forester is a bit higher at 5.7L per 100 km. I think that's mixed cycle use but am unsure. In any case, Subaru do offer diesels.
If I was looking at used luxury vehicle from that era, Lexus.XJman said:That's where I differ. I would much rather own an older mid to late 2000s and earlier bmw than anything new. And VW brands mk 1 or mk 2 era only.
Depends on what you're looking for. The VW is probably much easier to live with. I know the one I sat in a few months ago felt leaps and bounds more refined and comfortable than my STI.I still think the WRX is the better bang for the buck.
I would not own any German vehicle that wasn't new or CPO...before the warranty ran out, it would be out of my possession.
Keep in mind 220hp is under rated if you live any where near sea level and have access to 91-93 octane. Dyno numbers have put GTI power near the 240-250bhp range and in instrumented tests, the GTI was usually about .2 of second within the Focus ST.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/...video-review-2017-volkswagen-golf-gti-se.html
I am quite a fan of Tom Voelk's video reviews. Funny that he drove the GTI off the road...that wouldn't have happened with a WRX with the right tires...
He almost sells me on the GTI, but keeping in mind that for $30K plus you're getting a FWD car with 220 HP, I still think the WRX is the better bang for the buck. Plus VW reliability and even honesty is questionable...
That said, I really like the interior styling. I'm a fan of the teutonic clean and refined design. Not a huge fan of the current exterior design, but then one could quibble about the WRX as well...
Ducati is Italian. they just happened to be a subsidiary of Audi via ownership of Lamborghini. Still the Italians are not known for reliability either XD. And I agree that VW just got caught cheating. In addition to Mitsubishi, Mercedes ( https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/merce...ons-tests-in-nearly-all-real-world-conditions ) is also being accused of cheating. The dominoes are falling with diesels in general....Reliability is indeed questionable. I will not buy any VAG product at this point, even those not made in Germany (and I extend this to bikes; no Ducatis for me).
Honesty is not questionable. They admit they are dishonest.
Reliability can be hit or miss. I had a 2007 GTI for nearly 5 years and 80k miles. The biggest problem I had was misfires from a lean after market tune. My GLI I only had for 4 years 65k miles. Also reliable despite my attempts to make it not so (Modding). They are far from perfect though. I have seen lots of problematic threads about electrical issues and fuel pumps going bad.When it comes to fit, finish and flat interior feel for the price VW is hard to beat. Even the cheapest VW has a surprisingly nice quality feel. I am not sold at all on the reliability factor of the car in general, but if you want to have the best interior for the money I genuinely feel VW can't be beat.
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I would definitely agree. German cars cannot be beat on like most japanese vehicles. They must be maintained properly and used as directed. If you have no maintanence history on ANY used German vehicle, keep on walking.I would not own any German vehicle that wasn't new or CPO...before the warranty ran out, it would be out of my possession.
They dont really have to. No one does unless they state it is SAE certified.They have to offer power ratings via SAE methods. Unless somehow they skirt these rules much like they do emissions.
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