[bny13]

Hi I just have a Stupid question. I and my Cousin were just having fun with our both cars. So we did a pull on 2nd gear, but how come I don't stand a chance to him. Like he can pass me like nothing.
My car is bone stock with Nameless muffler delete
and his car stock with CAI and Cheap muffler.
He said I should bring it back to dealership to get a new car hahahahaha....

is something wrong?
one more question should be the Traction control on Or off when pulling
Forgot his car was 2005 not 2006 Accord coupe v6 MT

 

[XJman]

Nope, sounds exactly right.

You don't stand a chance because both cars are pretty matched but the accord has a better power band for this type of shenanigans because it's not turbo charged. I know this is hard to take but in the grand scheme of fast, the wrx is not fast, especially in a straight line from a roll pull.

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[bny13]

Nope, sounds exactly right.

You don't stand a chance because both cars are pretty matched but the accord has a better power band for this type of shenanigans because it's not turbo charged. I know this is hard to take but in the grand scheme of fast, the wrx is not fast, especially in a straight line from a roll pull.

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Ahh really that's sad. A 10yrs old car is better than mine.

or it just the Rev Hang of WRX?

 

[XJman]

No it isn't. Many people have unrealistic expectations. The rev hang has little to do with it.

If you wanted a fast car you should have looked into American muscle. They really do what your looking for.

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[SD_GR]

The Honda V6 is a wonderful motor. Quiet, reliable, versatile, with good torque, better fuel economy than my Subaru, and low emissions. Bravo Honda.

 

[XJman]

The Honda V6 is a wonderful motor. Quiet, reliable, versatile, with good torque, better fuel economy than my Subaru, and low emissions. Bravo Honda.

Always have been under appreciated for the performance they offer as well. My co-workers early 90s model runs beautifully at 230k and still has enough umph to spin the wheels with ease.

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[bny13]

No it isn't. Many people have unrealistic expectations. The rev hang has little to do with it.

If you wanted a fast car you should have looked into American muscle. They really do what your looking for.

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hehehe not fan of muscle cars. I mean yea i know it's fast.
But yea maybe the rev hand or something.
Because everytime i reach 4.5k to 5k rpm I loses power when pulling.

Wanted to buy AP for it hahaaha....

 

[XJman]

hehehe not fan of muscle cars. I mean yea i know it's fast.
But yea maybe the rev hand or something.
Because everytime i reach 4.5k to 5k rpm I loses power when pulling.

Wanted to buy AP for it hahaaha....

That has nothing to do with rev hang. Rev hang is not your issue. Even with a stage 1 tune the accord would likely still walk away from a roll. What you are asking for is exactly what a muscle car is good at. You say you do not like them, but don't understand why your wrx isn't good at what a muscle car is good at.

Enjoy your car for what it is, it's a fun spirited vehicle. It's faster than most econobox vehicles, and can punch at vehicles with a much higher price tag on a autox course.

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[Doctor Jeff]

There was a post about this awhile back. I used to have a 2001 Accord coupe, though it was a 4-cylinder. I also had a 2002 Acura CL, which is basically an upgraded version of the same.

They are both fun to drive cars, very reliable and I agree not recognized for the performance they offer as much as other cars.

As far as the modern version, though I think the Accord is a very good-looking coupe, it is a bit more expensive than the WRX, doesn't offer 4WD, and has a small backseat and much less usable space than the WRX. It is also very hard to find a manual, though they do exist, as my neighbor just got one.

The interior styling and amenities of the Accord are also likely to beat out the WRX in a comparable trim level, but again for more cost.

I would gather the WRX would handle better in the curves and with challenging conditions like slippery roads, gravel, etc. The Accord does handle well, but I'm not a fan of torque steering.

2016 Honda Accord Coupe V-6 Manual Test – Review – Car and Driver

 

[Firefighterjake]

There was a post about this awhile back. I used to have a 2001 Accord coupe, though it was a 4-cylinder. I also had a 2002 Acura CL, which is basically an upgraded version of the same.

They are both fun to drive cars, very reliable and I agree not recognized for the performance they offer as much as other cars.

As far as the modern version, though I think the Accord is a very good-looking coupe, it is a bit more expensive than the WRX, doesn't offer 4WD, and has a small backseat and much less usable space than the WRX. It is also very hard to find a manual, though they do exist, as my neighbor just got one.

The interior styling and amenities of the Accord are also likely to beat out the WRX in a comparable trim level, but again for more cost.

I would gather the WRX would handle better in the curves and with challenging conditions like slippery roads, gravel, etc. The Accord does handle well, but I'm not a fan of torque steering.

2016 Honda Accord Coupe V-6 Manual Test – Review – Car and Driver

Agree with this post 100%.

I had a 2003 Accord coupe with a MT which was fun to drive, economical, nice inside and handled reasonably well with enough zip to make me happy . . . in fact I was considering a newer Accord coupe -- perhaps a 6 cylinder -- until I took the test drive of the WRX. The added expense of the 6 cylinder vs. the WRX and the WRX's ability to handle the snow much better pretty much eliminated the Accord from the list . . . but the Accord was certainly a decent and reliable car. While I had it (second owner) I passed the 200,000 mark and I sold the car to my buddy who gave it to his son to drive . . . and shortly thereafter the timing chain stretched too much and they had to drop a new engine in it (oh well . . . it was reliable for me . . . and truthfully I was not very good when it came to maintenance.)

 

[Firefighterjake]

There was a post about this awhile back. I used to have a 2001 Accord coupe, though it was a 4-cylinder. I also had a 2002 Acura CL, which is basically an upgraded version of the same.

They are both fun to drive cars, very reliable and I agree not recognized for the performance they offer as much as other cars.

As far as the modern version, though I think the Accord is a very good-looking coupe, it is a bit more expensive than the WRX, doesn't offer 4WD, and has a small backseat and much less usable space than the WRX. It is also very hard to find a manual, though they do exist, as my neighbor just got one.

The interior styling and amenities of the Accord are also likely to beat out the WRX in a comparable trim level, but again for more cost.

I would gather the WRX would handle better in the curves and with challenging conditions like slippery roads, gravel, etc. The Accord does handle well, but I'm not a fan of torque steering.

2016 Honda Accord Coupe V-6 Manual Test – Review – Car and Driver

Agree with this post 100%.

I had a 2003 Accord coupe with a MT which was fun to drive, economical, nice inside and handled reasonably well with enough zip to make me happy . . . in fact I was considering a newer Accord coupe -- perhaps a 6 cylinder -- until I took the test drive of the WRX. The added expense of the 6 cylinder vs. the WRX and the WRX's ability to handle the snow much better pretty much eliminated the Accord from the list . . . but the Accord was certainly a decent and reliable car. While I had it (second owner) I passed the 200,000 mark and I sold the car to my buddy who gave it to his son to drive . . . and shortly thereafter the timing chain stretched too much and they had to drop a new engine in it (oh well . . . it was reliable for me . . . and truthfully I was not very good when it came to maintenance.)

 

[SD_GR]

I feel Honda has been the best engine builder in the world for the past 20 years or so.

Their main weakness was their sporting cars, with the exception of one car they hired Senna to sort, would turn like yachts.

The 160HP VTEC (y0!) CRX had an excellent motor, but a Clio Willie would let you drive along whereas in the Honda you'd end up backwards in a ditch. Ditto compared to the relatively underpowered 205 Rallye -- that car had steering and a suspension, and the CRX did not.

Eventually they fixed all that, and now their cars turn too. There are travel limits that you could imagine running into (my Subaru has 20 cm of rear suspension travel; I doubt a Honda will be able to match that) but unless the measure you are using to judge the cars is their ability to travel quickly across tank proving grounds the Honda chassis are now quite competitive.

I do wish Honda would make a good AWD car priced around what a modern Subaru costs -- I'd never have to shop for Subaru parts again once my WRX surrenders the spirit.

 

[XJman]

It's rarely an engine on any brand that fails anymore, it's all the junk attached to it and Honda is not immune from those failures. The same few companies basically supply all major OEMs.

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[SD_GR]

If I'm honest, Honda are not immune to ridiculous engine failures either -- one version of the V6, an engine I do admire, was... porous. Oil leaked through the engine. The Pilot forum was particularly impressed with that. It's an amazing accomplishment if you think about it. Later, the auto transmissions they linked to the V6 would fail. However, overall they are excellent cars. I'd buy one.

 

[XJman]

I've heard if that. In general, Honda and Toyota have a very high expectation set for themselves and rarely fail to meet it. Their suppliers can rarely keep up with them though. We are doing suspension and other vsrious springs for the new NSX and it's been a pain.

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[AltairRules]

I don't have traction control nor have I ever lost to a honda, idk how yours would lose like that. I'd burn my WRX if it lost to a stock honda with a fart can. Lol

 

[bny13]

I don't have traction control nor have I ever lost to a honda, idk how yours would lose like that. I'd burn my WRX if it lost to a stock honda with a fart can. Lol

I don't know why either.
we were rolling and he out run me fast.
maybe becuz my traction was On.
ahhh i dont know...
maybe ill try him again some other day.

 

[XJman]

Traction control makes no difference. Altair better start lighting his car on fire because a new accord will likely pound a stock wrx from a roll

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[JaguarXF]

This is more about torque and where that torque is made. From a roll, the V6 is going to make it at those RPMs and it doesn't need for the turbo to spool to generate the torque. The FA20 engine needs to spool to produce HP and torque. It would be my guess that from the roll, the turbo was not spooled up and thus the smaller engine wasn't producing the torque when you went WOT. This is the dreaded turbo lag.

From a dead stop (dig), you can spool the turbo and when you drop the clutch, you will hook. Not great for any piece of the drive train, but it will allow the AWD coupled with the turbo to hook and pull beyond your weight class.

American Muscle or American sports coupes have come a very long way. Some of these machines are not only beasts when going from a roll (really dangerous because of the way they quickly generate speed) or from a dig (see before - really dangerous), they also are monsters when carving up a road course or a back road (read Tail of the Dragon).

 

[mjmwrx]

I think there should be a sticky regarding the acceleration of the new wrx because this thread happens all the time. .I started one myself when I bought my rex. It's often stated on here that the car is not fast relative to modern muscle cars and while that is true, it implies that it's just a step down. Truth is its not fast relative to anything but your most basic economy car... Hondas, some Camrys, maximas, soooo many cars would smoke it or Keep right with it. I think it's time to say that the car is just not fast, PERIOD. I do enjoy some aspects of the car though I do have it listed for sale.