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Is there a fully stock awd production car that's lighter than the Impreza RS? The RS curb weight is 2972 lbs.
 

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Sure. From the Subaru range, the Justy comes to mind.

Other makers make or have made small 4/A-wd cars as well.
 

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If this is purely an academic question and you're not interested in a car you can actually purchase, only in a stock production car, there are many awd/4wd cars that weigh(ed) less than 1,200 kg (roughly 2,600 lbs or something). For example, the civilian Dentla S4 was right around that, several small Fiats came with an optional awd layout, several Japanese cars as well.
 

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Isuzu Impulse RS w/ Lotus Tuned Suspension
 

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fengshui said:
Isuzu Impulse RS w/ Lotus Tuned Suspension

Those were AWD? Damn...I didn't know. A girl I knew in high school had one - it was a pretty fun little car.
 

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Only the RS model was AWD and there were only like 800 built in the world. 1.6L turbo engine shared with the Lotus Elan FWD. They were pretty lightweight and could be made resonably fast. They also share a chassis with the Geo Storm. That is why you seem some frankenstein AWD turbo Geo Storms lurking around.

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Fformula88 said:
I think the AWD Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe are fairly light.

and those only come in automatic...


are we talking new or old cars? cause there are quite a few older AWD cars out there

such as the old (don't remember exactly what years) toyota starlets.. came with the 1.6liter 4age and AWD... light as hell
 

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blackshadow said:
The lightest is probably the old Fiat Panda 4x4
You're probably right!

A while ago I saw a photo of four soldiers carrying a Mini Moke. Did those ever come in 4wd? If they did, that'd be a contender too.

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EvilCerealBoX said:
and those only come in automatic...


are we talking new or old cars? cause there are quite a few older AWD cars out there

such as the old (don't remember exactly what years) toyota starlets.. came with the 1.6liter 4age and AWD... light as hell
I am pretty sure the older Toyota Starlets were RWD. I don't believe Toyota developed an AWD system until they started rallying the Celica All-Trac GT4.
 

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They did have a 4wd wagon "Corolla" before the Celica GT4 (a car that started off quite heavy in comparison with the competition). The early Starlet was a RWD offered with a 1.0, a 1.3, and a 1.6 among other options depending on your location, and in the mid 80s they switched to a fwd Starlet. Everybody loved the RWD Starlet though. I don't recall any other Starlet options in my market.
 

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Actually if you visit the Englishtown, NJ drag strip, the engine configuration of choice for starlets seems to be the 13B twin-rotor single turbo. Any number of these lightened RWD mickey thompsoned slicked hatches running rotaries can be seen either blowing something up at the tree, or running low 10s all day :rotfl:

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fengshui said:
I am pretty sure the older Toyota Starlets were RWD. I don't believe Toyota developed an AWD system until they started rallying the Celica All-Trac GT4.
I know they had an awd Tercel as early as 1982
 

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Actually if you visit the Englishtown, NJ drag strip, the engine configuration of choice for starlets seems to be the 13B twin-rotor single turbo. Any number of these lightened RWD mickey thompsoned slicked hatches running rotaries can be seen either blowing something up at the tree, or running low 10s all day :rotfl:

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For motorsport, the engine of choice was the 1.3L in the middle-of-the-line Startlet RWD. At 1.3L the motor could produce about 80 or 90 HP with reasonable reliability (at least 3 days' worth of stages), hand-ground cams were available with a variety of lift/duration combos, and people had sorted out the suspension (mostly Kayaba). If you were careful you could finish at a good spot, and at 1.3L you didn't have to compete with the 2.0L "monsters" since they were in another class, so while the Escorts, Mantas, and 131s fought for 1st you could have a decent rally. Everybody wanted a Starlet back then.
 

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Speaking of the 131, I still think the 131 Abarth was the coolest production car because it had 4 racing buckets (two in the front, two in the back), instead of conventional back seats and those fender flares, yummy :tongue:
 

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there was a awd civic wagon too


I didn't know the 323 came awd....the turbo ones? that would be a good platform.
 

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scottigee said:
there was a awd civic wagon too


I didn't know the 323 came awd....the turbo ones? that would be a good platform.
I had one of those civics!!! Real-time awd baby :cool:
The 323 awd turbos were pretty cool little cars.
 
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