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I bought a GTI Sport, after owning WRX's for 14 years...

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After two WRX's and one STI... Subaru made me do it!!! Since no more hatchback! I would have bought another WRX in a heartbeat, if they still made the hatch. Damn you Subaru! My 09 WRX was getting long in the tooth. Clutch was super stiff and aggravating a issue I have with my foot. And I really wanted something new. Really digging the GTI, the engine is a total beast! Even just stock, pulls throughout the powerband very linearly and strong. I guess on the dyno it puts down 235HP and 270 FT/LBS stock. I only have 100 miles on it so far, so still breaking it in. What is really blowing my mind is the interior and all of the electronic wizardry this car has. The DSG transmission is pretty sick also. What sold me on it though, was that just a reflash will bump it up to 316 HP / 380 Ft/LBS, at the wheels...And it doesn't void the warranty. Of course I loved my Subaru and the AWD, I was very sad to let it go. Don't tell anyone, but it actually brought tears to my eyes to say goodbye... I guess the commercials are right, "Love, is what makes Subaru a Subaru." ;)

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Enjoy the new ride. Where did you get those dyno numbers. Aside from a few fanboys using over corrected dynos most put down well under 200?

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A nearly 80 whp increase on a flash tune that doesnt void the warranty? Wow....

Congrats on the car!
A nearly 80 whp increase on a flash tune that doesnt void the warranty? Wow....

Congrats on the car!
On Volkswagen, it absolutely will have any warranty claim for the engine, transmission, and drive line denied. It isn't worth arguing though. They are stringent about everything and much like Subaru, most of the mod friendly dealership talk is loose.

I find it hard to believe, an acquaintance of mine has a built to the hilt GTI and it barely pushes 500 at the wheels. He wasn't able to crack 300whp until he did substantial work. It's also worth mentioning the car is broken down almost as often as Robin's bugeye.

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Congratulations. I've heard those motors are very easy to wake up. I know the power gains are somewhat realistic, but I would be skeptical about it being covered under warranty. Do you have any pictures of it?
After two WRX's and one STI... Subaru made me do it!!! Since no more hatchback! I would have bought another WRX in a heartbeat, if they still made the hatch. Damn you Subaru! My 09 WRX was getting long in the tooth. Clutch was super stiff and aggravating a issue I have with my foot. And I really wanted something new. Really digging the GTI, the engine is a total beast! Even just stock, pulls throughout the powerband very linearly and strong. I guess on the dyno it puts down 235HP and 270 FT/LBS stock. I only have 100 miles on it so far, so still breaking it in. What is really blowing my mind is the interior and all of the electronic wizardry this car has. The DSG transmission is pretty sick also. What sold me on it though, was that just a reflash will bump it up to 316 HP / 380 Ft/LBS, at the wheels...And it doesn't void the warranty. Of course I loved my Subaru and the AWD, I was very sad to let it go. Don't tell anyone, but it actually brought tears to my eyes to say goodbye... I guess the commercials are right, "Love, is what makes Subaru a Subaru." ;)

:wave: WRX, you won't be forgotten!
Congrats! Great car. Be very careful with the tuning. The tune can absolutely cause a warranty denial and will cause issues over time. First and foremost, that is a lot more power than the car was designed for going to the front wheels. Your front suspension components will need to be an upgraded to handle it reliably over time. Forget about any traction and you will need a new set of tires very soon. Secondly, these cars have well documented turbo failures, specially when tuned so again be very careful because the dealer CAN and most likely will deny a warranty claim and can even "flag" your car so you can't go to another place. The DSG unit is also quite a bit complicated (I had one) and requires rather expensive maintenance, don't skip it if you want it to last. Again, tuning the car will wear out the DSG components faster. You also will HAVE to change your plugs after a re-flash, they will fail. I would advise you to keep this car stock for at least few thousand miles. They make around 220 WHP and are just over 3,000 lbs with trap speed around 98-100 mph stock, few ticks behind the new WRX. It is plenty to have fun on daily basis. If you decide to tune your car, check out MK7 forums but be careful of what you read online. 380 ft-lbs going to the front wheels will NOT end well. Good luck and enjoy the car. It is great little package.
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Enjoy the new ride. Where did you get those dyno numbers. Aside from a few fanboys using over corrected dynos most put down well under 200?

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Dyno numbers are worthless unless you are comparing the same car back to back on the same dyno but they are a little underrated. They make around 220 WHP.
Enjoy the new ride. Where did you get those dyno numbers. Aside from a few fanboys using over corrected dynos most put down well under 200?

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So I was off on the HP, it's 220, torque 270. Got it from one of the MK7 forums. View attachment 287154 No way this car is putting down less than 200hp. I'm super impressed, and that's coming from a Stage II STI and WRX.
Enjoy it. I drove the Performance Pack GTI and it was alright, they can certainly hold their own with a few mods [from a roll]. The interior is lightyears ahead of the WRX, if VW didn't screw with us TDI owners so much, I likely would have went to the GTI. I do miss my hatch..
Congratulations. I've heard those motors are very easy to wake up. I know the power gains are somewhat realistic, but I would be skeptical about it being covered under warranty. Do you have any pictures of it?
Thanks man! I was hard not to buy another Scooby... Believe me! I'm skeptical about the warranty stuff too. I have a buddy who has the prev gen, stage I, just a reflash, same engine. He said it doesn't void the warranty. And I had two VW dealerships tell me the same. Maybe they were blowing smoke. But you can bet your ass, I'm gonna flash it back to stock if I have a problem... So this is the sport model, basically the base with all performance upgrades of the SE. LSD, special 18" rims, brakes from the golf R, and 10 more HP over stock. View attachment 287162
Yeah you'll enjoy the interior feel. Even my old mk5 had a notably nicer interior than the new Subaru lineup

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Yeah you'll enjoy the interior feel. Even my old mk5 had a notably nicer interior than the new Subaru lineup

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After owning nothing but WRX's since 2003, the interior feels like I'm in a Rolls Royce! lol.. Interior is very comfortable and high tech. What's kind of weird, when you put the front seat back all the way, it almost touches the back seat! No way a human can sit back there like that. But lots of leg room up front is nice. I'm gonna miss AWD, but my plan is to get another WRX when they make a hatch again. Hopefully when it moves to the new Impreza platform, MY2020 :pray:.

But in regards to the ECU reflash you can actually get it at the dealership. And you get a 5 year warranty with it. However the dealership below is the one that told me about it. Unfortunately, they wouldn't work with me on the price, so I bought elsewhere. I'll have to stop by and see what they can do, but might be awkward:D.


Herzog-Meier Volkswagen is now an official APR Plus Dealer!
Yeah, it's like dinan with BMW. It still has limits beyond what's advertised. You have to count on someone to foot the bill, and it isn't going to be vw.

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Congrats on the car! As others have mentioned though warranty can still be denied. I've had a lot of warranty work done on my last GTI (heavily modified) but at the same time the dealership has told me (and it has happened), if a repair is really out of the ordinary or a costly one, VWoA will send an adjuster down to inspect the car and in that case i'd be SOL and will have to fork over the repair bill.

Just food for thought.
That APR stage 1 tune does NOT come with warranty. You can purchase the APR tune plus but surprise, surprise it is rated at 260 HP and 300 FT LB and it looks like a 3rd party warranty. No way is VW going to warranty 380 ft-lbs on that engine. The price is $35 a month for 60 months which comes to $ 2,100.
Congrats on the new car! Never had any VW before and I might consider it in the near future. I've had my '16 WRX for 1 year and I love it. The real reason why I chose subaru is because of their AWD.

I like how the new GTI looks! I just don't like it because of FWD. I might conside Golf R next after I saw it in person in NY Autoshow. They looked great too!
Volkswagen has too many reliability issues for my taste. A lot of people turn away from VW for that reason. Best option is to lease it for 3 yrs and turn it back in before it drains your wallet.
Volkswagen has too many reliability issues for my taste. A lot of people turn away from VW for that reason. Best option is to lease it for 3 yrs and turn it back in before it drains your wallet.
Subaru engine reliability doesn't seem to be stellar either...

190k combined on the two 2012 TDIs I had, only had to replace a wiper motor on one of them and no warranty repairs for either. Not bad.


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It's hit or miss with every car. My STI is in the shop as we speak, with no ETA on when the car will be diagnosed or finished. I've had steering issues with the car since day one. After I got my loaner I drove my car down to the VW lot and saw a new GTI sitting out front. I walked around the car for a bit, but decided to leave before a test drive. It was tempting. Had I been better dressed, I probably would have gone inside and spoken with a sales associate.
I like shopping for cars dressed like a bum. They try and screw with me until they go through my income and credit Information.

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