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Hey peeps. So we all know the rally-history of the wrx and sti. every 2015+ model has a slot for an aftermarket f1-style light under the rear license plate.

First off, why the hell doesn't subaru make an oem light to goes into that slot?? is it a jdm part? Its not a mod because the slot literally has clips so that a light can be installed there.

Secondly, I know that most of the aftermarket options come with the flashing brake option which can either be toggled on/off or is permanent within the light's wiring.
(just to be clear, i mean that when the brake is pressed, the f1-style light goes "flash-flash-flash-flash-solid" (give or take a couple flashes) every time the brake is pressed.)
In CT, state laws says no "strobing" lights, and the website selling the light warns that flashing is not allowed in all states.
Therefore, has anyone ever run into issues with the police due to their flashing brake lights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tco11mSFks (video of product)
 

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I thought the flashing brake lights were being considered as a safety feature to be mandated? I think bmw calls it active brake lights or something.

The only thing I can suggest is reading specifically what’s written for your state. It may specify what lights can and can’t blink or strobe.
 

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I have the F1 style that flashes a few time then goes solid and I have never been stopped for it. My old Xterra came stock with a flashing rear 3rd brake light.....
 

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I thought the flashing brake lights were being considered as a safety feature to be mandated? I think bmw calls it active brake lights or something.

The only thing I can suggest is reading specifically what’s written for your state. It may specify what lights can and can’t blink or strobe.
I honestly might just call the town PD or state DMV and ask lol.
 

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If it is unlawful in your state, it is unlawful. HOWEVER, that does not mean you will automatically get stopped.
Depends on the individual officers.

I had an amber marker light (small side-marker type used on semi-trailers) on the rear of my Buick. Up until 2016 it was lawful. Then unbeknownst to me in 2016, the law changed and only red lights are now allowed on the rear of cars here.

For 2 years, no one stopped me. Then just a month ago, one guy stopped me for that yellow marker light. He did not give me a ticket, but told me it was unlawful. It depends so much on the individual officers and what they overlook and what they do not.

If it is in the books as unlawful in your state, it doesn't matter what they tell you on the phone. Some may enforce it; some may not.
 

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The product I plan on getting has a switch that can turn the flashing element on or off. so I might just go for it and see what happens. the only issue I might run into is the limit of "strobing lights" in CT. I bet I could argue that strobing is a constant, continuous flashing, rather than short controlled bursts of 3-4 flashes.
 

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Ok just to clear thing F1 light sound pretty cool an all but the real reason for the option light in rear bumper Europe it is required to have a rear fog light red and illuminate at same density as the brake light applied.
All Subaru for the European market comes with one.
 

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Ok just to clear thing F1 light sound pretty cool an all but the real reason for the option light in rear bumper Europe it is required to have a rear fog light red and illuminate at same density as the brake light applied.
All Subaru for the European market comes with one.
This is correct essentially as far as I can work out. The relevant Directives are

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=celex:31977L0538
to establish the legal framework and prevent member-states from prohibiting fog lambs with a CE stamp

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=celex:31989L0518
to regulate rear fogs when they are modernized to be included into a fixture for example

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=celex:31999L0014
to make it illegal to deny fogs if they meet the initial Directive

and
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=celex:31970L0156
for any further developments at the time of issue; however, I've learned that the initial directive is now repealed (the 1970s directive is pulled in 2016 I think).

The Official Journal of the European Union offers access to citizens here:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/oj/direct-access.html
so you can look up practically any Directive.

In my hands the search engine yields the following Directive as the most recent regarding fog lamps:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/AUTO/?uri=CELEX:32018R0858&qid=1534425623529&rid=9

I bet the Americans offer something similar. I'd not waste time with a local regulation if there is a federal US regulation on the matter -- I'd go fed first. Happy searching.
 

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Thanks! The issue isn't the fog light itself, the question of legality comes with the flashing/pulsing aspect when braking. meaning that the one light is "flashing" for a second or two while the other brake lights are solid.
 
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