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I have been driving stick for over a decade. I can drive stick fine, however I am not a car guru, and I have 10k miles on my 2018 wrx and I can already feel it's not the same. Already I want to apologize because I don't even know what I'm really trying to ask for here. I just need advice generally on what is causes clutch wear (specifically 2nd to 3rd at wot). I have scoured over every youtube video I can on how to drive stick better, tricks, etc. I just can't seem to find the answers I am looking for.

I don't know if someone has a good video I can find somewhere or maybe a thread posted somewhere here on the technical analysis of driving and specifically what exactly wears out a clutch, and how to get the most out of it at WOT, mainly the worst things you can do and the best habits I guess.

And example of my driving. I am in 1st and go WOT until readline I push in the clutch and slam it into 2nd and release the clutch and obviously (forgive my ignorance) the tranny has to catch up? and you get that shudder in the car. Is there any way I can drive to alleviate this?

Another example is the same exact thing but going from 2nd to 3rd. It seems there is no way to shift faster than having to wait for the rpm's to come down, and the clutch most definitely does not feel as clean you could say as when I got it brand new. Maybe this is normal wear? I do not drive my car that hard most of the time, but I'm certainly not driving a prius neither.


Any sort of guidance or tips on how to drive, shift, or anything would be greatly appreciated. I am not a car guy, and I'm very confused on what can cause clutch wear and how to best guard against it and I am always willing to learn ANYTHING. So here comes my odd thread lol.

Thank you for reading.
 

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The clutch only wears when it’s slipping. So eliminate that and you ease it.

You still want to control the clutch engagement and not just dump it. What’s happening when you dump it is the engine is not at the optimal rpm for the shift so it’s basically shock through the driveline and clutch. I’ve always granny shifted, but some people swear by double clutch as it synchronizes the input shaft and the crank.

However if you are always driving like a nutjob and flat footing the skinny pedal you are just going to have to live with smoking clutches.
 

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modulating the clutch should be like cracking an egg. too hard of a hit and you'll tear the yoke coming out right into the pan. too little, and the yoke will take too long to drip through; and also possibly tear on the edge of the shell.

it's a feeling when you do it just right, you know it.
 

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And example of my driving. I am in 1st and go WOT until readline I push in the clutch and slam it into 2nd and release the clutch and obviously (forgive my ignorance) the tranny has to catch up? and you get that shudder in the car. Is there any way I can drive to alleviate this? ........
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And example of my driving. I am in 1st and go WOT until readline I push in the clutch and slam it into 2nd and release the clutch and obviously (forgive my ignorance) the tranny has to catch up? and you get that shudder in the car. Is there any way I can drive to alleviate this? ........
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Well instead of making fun of someone why dont you shed some light on the proper way of shifting fast while not doing damage? Its like making fun of someone who cant change their oil when they were never taught how to. I guess some people are just mean spirited though.
 

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The clutch only wears when it’s slipping. So eliminate that and you ease it.

You still want to control the clutch engagement and not just dump it. What’s happening when you dump it is the engine is not at the optimal rpm for the shift so it’s basically shock through the driveline and clutch. I’ve always granny shifted, but some people swear by double clutch as it synchronizes the input shaft and the crank.

However if you are always driving like a nutjob and flat footing the skinny pedal you are just going to have to live with smoking clutches.


Thank you for the response. Is there a way to shift or drive to allow for the rpms to drop faster? I see people racing on youtube shifting very fast and with no tranny shock. Im learning to pull the gear sooner in anticipation before even engaging the clutch and it really seems to help.

Also what causes grinding going into gears? This is my 3nd car and my civic used to grind going into 3rd when i was going hard. And i can already tell 3rd is going to be a problem with the wrx as well. I am the common denominator here.


Also just another question if you please. Say im going wot in 2nd hit redline and push in the clutch and put it into third the clutch is still fully pushed down. Is there any sort of wear that can be going on at this point? Or is the wear only when you finally release the clutch and shock the drivetrain to soon? Its always a question i had but never had and answer. thank you.
 

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The driving habit you are describing is going to be hard on a clutch.

It sounds like you are drag racing. Your best bet is a tune to get rid of some of the hang, then a light flywheel and a clutch that’s designed for that use
 

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The driving habit you are describing is going to be hard on a clutch.

It sounds like you are drag racing. Your best bet is a tune to get rid of some of the hang, then a light flywheel and a clutch that’s designed for that use

So this is just a tune issue? I mean i cant be the only person who likes to race people here and there, right? I would think racing a friend there is no other way to shift fast enough,bso i dont understand thst other persons posts about laughing without and explanation. Very frustrating when i just cannot find the info i am looking for.

And isnt the thr point of double clutching these newer transmissions pointless? I believe i read that somewhere.
 

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So this is just a tune issue? I mean i cant be the only person who likes to race people here and there, right? I would think racing a friend there is no other way to shift fast enough,bso i dont understand thst other persons posts about laughing without and explanation. Very frustrating when i just cannot find the info i am looking for.

And isnt the thr point of double clutching these newer transmissions pointless? I believe i read that somewhere.
No, the tune is not the issue. You are.

Your driving style is 100% without question the issue. Until you stop racing you’ll be burning it up. I also suspect you are a troll but I’ll keep humoring you because this question has been asked before and someone searching for an answer may find it helpful.
 

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So this is just a tune issue? I mean i cant be the only person who likes to race people here and there, right? I would think racing a friend there is no other way to shift fast enough,bso i dont understand thst other persons posts about laughing without and explanation. Very frustrating when i just cannot find the info i am looking for.

And isnt the thr point of double clutching these newer transmissions pointless? I believe i read that somewhere.
No, the tune is not the issue. You are.

Your driving style is 100% without question the issue. Until you stop racing you’ll be burning it up. I also suspect you are a troll but I’ll keep humoring you because this question has been asked before and someone searching for an answer may find it helpful.

No i am not a troll. Just because im asking and honest question that i was embarrassed to ask in the first place and got exaxtly that, ridicule. Great world we live in now days. Go read, you will nothing on this subject. There are so many dos and donts and eveeyone has their own opinion its hard judge what is correct.
 

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I’m giving you an honest answer. Nothing you do will make your clutch last substantially longer until you drive it normally. I don’t understand why you would want to “race” a wrx anyway. I’d buy a fast car for that like a Camaro SS or something.

You’ve asked these clutch and shifting questions in the past, and received much the same answer. Just like everyone else who asks them. Practice.
 

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I’m giving you an honest answer. Nothing you do will make your clutch last substantially longer until you drive it normally. I don’t understand why you would want to “race” a wrx anyway. I’d buy a fast car for that like a Camaro SS or something.

You’ve asked these clutch and shifting questions in the past, and received much the same answer. Just like everyone else who asks them. Practice.[/QUOTE


And why do you think i am asking them? Because you guys are more experienced and most likely have the right ways set down pat, so i can learn! I do not. God forbid a newbee comes in asks for advice, how stupid of them!
 
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