Actually Big Sky I think although the KYB spring combo may be great compared to the stock setup, they are junk compared to the nicer full coil-over Japanese systems in every which way apart from cost. The KYB's are not short stroke design, not height adjustable, do not offer the handling or quality of the japanese units and do not offer pillwo ball mounts. With pillow ball mounts you're looking at $1100-$1200 for the KYB setup. Tein will be releasing their new SS kit for $1350 retail very soon. I see little value in the KYB setup.Big Sky WRX said:Dan,
You definitely get what you pay for, I most agree. But a matched spring/ adj. strut setup at a decent price isn't asking for too much IMHO. STi offers one for the GD (4 setting struts, springs) but the "going" rate is over $1800- that's a no brainer.
The RS "boys" have VERY succesfully ran the Eibach Pro/KYB AGX setup for autox. Eibach Pro's were avaible as a group buy just a week ago for $205 shipped, AGX's can be had for $389 for four, that's under $600 for a reliable, proven setup. Ofcourse you don't get adjustable ride heighth, but at ~ 1.5" lower, it is in the ball park of most reccomended coilover heighths. You do still get adjustable dampening adjustments, albeit single adjustable, but so are most coilovers.
There is no doubt there is a very real market/niche for high end coilovers, however I would be willing to speculate that their is larger market/niche for a suspension setup as I have described. It would fit the needs of someone who wants to autox , hit the track occasionally, hit the gravel when he wants, do some "spirited street" driving and use as their daily driver. The other thing it would do is not hit your wallet so heavily.
The Cusco is not bad. Very nice quality but also quite heavy and not as adjustable as the Tein. The Zero1's and 2's are the same except the 2's are 6 way shock dampener adjustable.NOSS said:...there's a guy here who is raving about the Cusco Zero-1 coilovers. He's a shop owner and says that they are THE BEST coilovers he's ever riden on. Any word on those for mostly street driving and once a month autoxing? I've heard that they are non-adjustable struts and that's fine with me...
No, short stroke is when you shorten the case length to better match the shorter spring. You then increase the diameter of the piston shaft to actually increase capacity. Inverted is exactly that, you turn the strut upside down which allows more strut travel and is also stronger.Big Sky WRX said:Dan,
When you refer to short stroke are you refering to an inverted strut design? If so, I agree that is a better design. I'm not advocating KYB by any means, just the fact that a quality adj strut/spring isn't available for the rex.
Tell us more about the SS.