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For MY 2018, the S4 and S5 went to a torque converter 8 speed automatic.
Interesting. The ZF-8 is praised by all the big car journalists. Didn't look at those cars though since they were out of my budget.

We also looked at the 2018 XF-S Shooting Brake AWD... too much for a car that will be hard to sell / trade in 3 years.
I couldn't imagine buying any of these luxury brands new, but Jaguar is one that traditionally has a negative stigma. I've never actually done the research so I won't make any statements I can't back up. It looks like a sweet car though and I'm sure its got a mean growl
 
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