Right now a diesel isn't an option for me at $4.00+ a gallon. I'm also not impressed with the Prius. The Geo Metro accomplished the same fuel mileage 20 years ago.
I think Subaru's claim is optimistic. It's most likely going to be closer to 40.Yes, but the Metro does not tell the world that you are responsible
The Suby Diesels apparently gets 50mpg. $4 a gallon is nothing.
I get 34mpg now and pay $3.30 a gallon. 50mpg would mean filling up twice a month and I travel around 250 miles a week.
Nail on the Head Ray.. Are so few people capable of basic math?
I think Subaru's claim is optimistic. It's most likely going to be closer to 40.
I'm doing a hair over 500 miles a week. I'm getting 35mpg right now and paying $2.98 a gallon. $4. gallon is a 1/3 increase in price for me. That means a 1/3 increase in mileage would be roughly 47mpg, so buying a 50mpg diesel would do nothing for me but give me a car payment.
^^What he said. Let's say that there was a 45mpg option for me; Prius, Diesel, whatever. I'll use the Prius, since the gas is cheaper, and it gets great mpg. (Though this varies greatly, if you look into it..)
With the mileage I drive, I would save roughly $17 a week. That's < $900 a year. (I'm using a weighted average between my truck and WRX, at about 28mpg) It would be many, many, many years of gas savings before I even broke even on the expense of buying the car.
It's for this reason that I usually roll my eyes when people run out and buy a new car with the stated reason being "I need to get better gas mileage". Are so few people capable of basic math?
I live in Jersey where prices are normally at the lower end of the scale, and I run regular in my Mazda. Even if the fuel was $3.50 a gallon, it still wouldn't be worth it.This is not a claim by Subaru. It was a statement by Edmunds. When they tested the car they averaged 49.5.
How the hell are you paying 2.98 I hate you.
I am paying 3.30 and Diesel is 4.
I agree that it does not match everybody's needs but in my example, it would save me. My tank is smaller and in days where defrost/airconditioning/city driving is needed (everyday in chicago) i get about 28-30 mpg
I can see more logic to it if someone's "in the market anyway". I just know of many people who have used gas mileage as their stated rationale for purchasing a new model, and had to vent. :tongue:The Diesel is not suppose to cost more than the petrol for subaru. So if you can afford a $24,000 car and are thinking about the Legacy Petrol or Legacy Diesel; you will save a ton by going with the diesl.
I live in Jersey where prices are normally at the lower end of the scale, and I run regular in my Mazda. Even if the fuel was $3.50 a gallon, it still wouldn't be worth it.
500 miles a week, $3.50 a gallon, 35mpg = $2600 a year.
500 miles a week, $4.00 a gallon, 50mpg = $2080 a year.
The big savings just aren't there. We're talking about $10 a week, and I drive a lot. For someone who only drives 250 miles a week, $5. a week really isn't worth it. If the car got 75mpg, or the diesel came down to $3.00 a gallon it would be worth it. Until then, it's just a novelty.
I can see more logic to it if someone's "in the market anyway". I just know of many people who have used gas mileage as their stated rationale for purchasing a new model, and had to vent. :tongue: