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Hey guys I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on a wheel setup. Would it be better to get a good all season tire like the Continentals or have a winter/summer setup and swap them out. I was thinking for where our area is is it really necessary to have a winter/summer setup. It seems almost a little more practical for the wallet to roll with a good all season.
 

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I don't understand why it would be easier on the wallet? Instead of buying 1 set of tires that last 15,000 miles, you buy two sets that last approx. 30,000 miles.

Buying a performance car then neutering the car by installing no seasons is a sin.

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Depends where you live. If temps are consistently below freezing, winter tires are a good idea. AWT's are always a compromise.

That said, in 40 years of driving I have never bought winter tires until now. I have always used AWT's including over 20 years in the Midwest, and I have never gotten stuck or had any major problems. My '12 WRX came with AWT's btw.

However, my new WRX came with summer performance tires, so I thought this would be a good opportunity to finally invest in some Blizzaks. Plus, I have been doing quite a bit of research on winter tires, and it seems the benefits are indisputable.

Testing the Benefits of Winter Tires | Edmunds.com

Really looking forward to the snow this year!
 

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Can we merge all the winter, summer and all season tire questions into one big thread like the BOV thread? It's the same questions being asked over and over again...
 

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When am I actually going to need performance tires on streets though? How often am I going to be taking exits and on ramps at speeds over 70mph?
Are you aware that the #1 contributing factor to braking performance is tires?

There's more to tires than taking offramps fast.

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I don't understand why it would be easier on the wallet? Instead of buying 1 set of tires that last 15,000 miles, you buy two sets that last approx. 30,000 miles.
True in theory but I've read that winter tires don't last as long, as the rubber compound wears quicker than summer tires. Still I agree with the premise.
 

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True in theory but I've read that winter tires don't last as long, as the rubber compound wears quicker than summer tires. Still I agree with the premise.
My winters are only on the car for 4 months out of the year I'll take that slight compromise if only for safety.

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The performance summer tires make a huge difference in wet and dry braking and hydroplaning resistances vs most all seasons I've used. As far as tire life you are going to get many many seasons of solid dependable traction out of a set of winters where as an all season not so much. They run out of winter performance very quickly. My contis were great year one, completely useless year 2.

Winter tires tread life will be greatly dependant on how they are used. If you are constantly using them in warm weather or carving corners like you are in formula one they will be short lived. However, if you drive like you have sense, and drive moderately tire life is not an issue, and in cases will outlast what you would normally get driving one set of all seasons year round.

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Doctor Jeff said:
True in theory but I've read that winter tires don't last as long, as the rubber compound wears quicker than summer tires. Still I agree with the premise.
Winter tires are designed for sub-40° temperatures; use in temperatures higher than that will cause increased wear.

People who have seasonal sets have to walk that fine line around swap time: summer tires don't have adequate grip below 40°, winter tires don't have adequate grip above 40°. At what point do you make the switch?

The ONLY time that A/S tires have an advantage over seasonal sets is traction during those flex times, which account for only like 4-6 weeks/year; the remaining weeks, you're dealing with reduced traction in regards to highway on-/off-ramps, evasive maneuvers, braking, etc.

As said, cost difference is minimal. You'll need a second set of wheels (you can buy used OE wheels on the cheap, generally), and you'll have to be able to DIY swap (cost of a jack and a breaker bar).

Unless you're in a situation where you will rarely / never see snowfall, A/S tires are a waste. Buy a set of summer and winter tires, and enjoy the benefit of ultimate traction year-round. The less snow you get, the better suited you are for a "Performance Winter" tire. When you see 40' of wet/heavy lake-effect snow (vs the powder stuff they see in CO/UT), studded snow tires may be better. You'll need to evaluate what your snowfall situation is and buy tires accordingly.
 

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Hallowleg,
The nice thing is that this is America and we have so many choices and we can all have it our own way.
Personally, I have a 2016 and I’m getting ready to buy all-seasons…because it makes sense to me
- I like the acceleration and sportiness of the car..but overall, I’m a conservative driver and rarely take turns in the city at .8 G’s nor do I tailgate…so high performance tires are not a necessity for me.
- Winter tires will wear too fast for me. I live in Southern Ohio and sometimes drive out of state…i.e. south for work…there’s enough winter days over 40 degrees (the point where winter tires start wearing quickly) that it isn’t worth it.
-Furthermore, if it snows here, all-seasons are plenty good on this AWD car to get me to and from work and anywhere I want to go safely; furthermore, if it snows, the roads are clear within a day due to the gov’t salting the roads or warm weather melting it. If I lived much further north and didn’t ever travel south, I’d consider snow tires…but it would not be a definite thing.
I have 17” wheels and I’m going with the Michelin Premier A/S all season tires.
 

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I live in the Cincinnati area and winter tires and summer performance tires were the best decisions I've ever made.

I don't know where you live in southern Ohio but the entire Cincinnati area is notorious for not cleaning anything.

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I bought a second set of stock rims for my snows. They were posted on Facebook in a local Subaru group, mint condition.

I just had them mounted Friday. Im in Upstate NY so we have had a bit of snow already! LOL. I work from home mostly so I dont drive much...my snows will last a few seasons for sure. I bought a middle of the road brand, I didnt want the cheapest but didnt want expensive either, I just dont drive enough specially in winter months.
 

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Honestly, having owned two Mustang GTs, Mustang Cobra, two C30s... and even a Honda Accord vtech Coupe I am puzzled that Subaru puts summer tires on an AWD car. Yes, I knew this going in. However it still annoys me.

In around 5 years when its trade-in time, if I go WRX again I will likely be putting those summer tires right back on as I do my trade in.... until then they sit in the basement, hopefully they won't rot.

I just put a set of the best all weather tires I could afford on my new 2016 left over limited.

They seem to work just fine for my needs.
 
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