[jcroz91]

so i just got the CEL codes off my 06 WRX TR

P1410
p2442pd

and im told those are for both my Air Injection and Secondary Air Injection Valves, i went to the dealership today and they said they are ~$300 a peice and you need to install them yourself. (i dont plan on spending that much)

However i have heard that a common fix for this is to just install a blocking plate since these are only used for emisions control.

When i was at the dealer i asked the parts guy guys a Diagram to see where these things are even at. He said one is in the front of the engine and one is in the back of the engine... If any one has pics from there plate installation to help me find these. Im realitivly knew to the subaru thing. I had a mustang before this and could take the externals of that engine apart with my eyes closed but this is a bit more complicated and im very uneducated on it. so any help would be appreciated by myself and any future subaru owners who may need a little tutorial on how to fix the problem.

so first im just looking for any pictures or descriptions on how to remove these Valves.. making the plate and putting everything back together should be easy! thanks!!

 

[jcroz91]

Just removed the TMIC and this is what can see by removing that...

Now i circled what i think are these "secondary air injection valves"
am i right or wrong??

 

[jcroz91]

well tonight i revmoved the valve that i #'ed 1 and cleaned it out and put it back on... the parts guy at the dealership today recommended that.

im not sure but is there supposed to be liquid running through this valve? because when i removed it some liquid spilled out. just making sure thats normal.

i will let update the thread tomorrow to let you guys know if there are any changes in the CEL codes

 

[Ajax2029]

When I removed mine, there was water in both valves.

The biggest PITA was removing the tube that runs from the second valve(the one under the intake manifold) over to the passenger side cylinder head. I ended up removing the throttle body and turbo to get to it, and then I still ended up cutting it with a hacksaw.

Good luck and happy wrenching!

 

[jcroz91]

i didnt see the other one on the passenger side... like in the pics i circled what i thought were both of them, next to each other on the driver side

 

[Ajax2029]

The valves are both on the driver side. But there is a metal tube running from the forward most valve to the passenger side cylinder head. You can see it in the pic, it's that silver crinkle looking tube below the bypass valve hose.

 

[jcroz91]

well the codes came back so im just going to have to install blocking plates... so now i need to know what are the cheapest options as far as tuning and turning this CEL off after i install the plates

 

[jcroz91]

iv been told a tactrix cable is what ill need... is this correct?

 

[Sinister]

yes... or accessport

 

[jcroz91]

accessports are like $500 though.

i think this is all id have to pay for the tactrix cable right??
EvoScan OpenPort 1.3U interface cable for Mitsubishi and Subaru Drive-by-Wire, Tactrix OpenPort Cables, TAC-OpenPort1.3U - Tuner Tools, the inside line

 

[turb0]

Your going to need a lot more then what you are thinking.
What city do you live in?
Cosworth makes the blocking plates.

You can buy that cable, But your going to need the program and lots of knowledge to go with it.

My thoughts are, spend the money on the plates, and the cobb ap. If you mess this up. You will be spending a few thousand dollars to fix it.

One day people will learn that working on a Subaru is not even close to a gm, ford v8. A v8 is a very forgiving engine to work on. Flat 4 will leave you for dead.

 

[jcroz91]

I wouldnt tune it myself. I can make blocking plates and install them, but ill have a shop tune it using the cable. I wouldnt ever try to tune it myself. Right or am i way off?

 

[Mikie13]

You wouldn't even need the cable if you were to have a shop tune it, they should have it to use already...you should be able to learn the software easily enough just to clear the codes, unless even adding those blocking plates requires a tune, but I'm not sure about that.

If you're gonna have a shop tune it though..may as well go protune Stage 2 while you're at it.

 

[jcroz91]

So i can block the plates and take it over to slomotion and have then turn of the codes with out me even needing to buy a cable? I am in a pinch for money, i just had my 21st bday in vegas and lost too much money gambling or else i would get it fully tuned. I just cant afford that right now

 

[Mikie13]

I have no idea what services they will provide or what they would charge you for that, but if they tune Subarus, then they should be able to just connect to your ECU and clear the codes.

 

[jcroz91]

Thats good news thanks for the heads up

 

[turb0]

So i can block the plates and take it over to slomotion and have then turn of the codes with out me even needing to buy a cable? I am in a pinch for money, i just had my 21st bday in vegas and lost too much money gambling or else i would get it fully tuned. I just cant afford that right now

Ah I would just hold off before you doing anything. And in the mean time start reading while you save your money. The cel code is not going to kill your car. What your about to do can!

You have a lot of learning to do. And if the shop doesn't have a cable. You do not want them to touch your car. The cheap fix is to buy an AP and add the plates. What you spend in a tune and shop time you could have bought an AP.
But you have some research to do 1st. Pulling those air pumps is not just as easy and pulling them and tosing them in the garage. And installing the plates are a *****. Research it all then post up about why you can't just pull the air pump off and toss it.

Everyone else if you do know.. please wait to post it. This is a learning lesson. Subaru's are not like v8 cars.

 

[jcroz91]

slow motion will have the cord they are a big shop that specializes in subarus and mits, and iv installed blocking plates before. idk i just really dont think its as hard as your making it seem. your acting like im putting the internals together or something.

 

[turb0]

Can you tell me what wires in those air pump plugs control what part?

 

[turb0]

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