Normal for mine. Though I find that some point in the upper RPMs, WOT does not bog the car. Don't know what this point is cuz I don't watch tach when up there; too busy watching for deer and other cars.
2016 WRX Acceleration - WOT Pointless?
I have a 2016 WRX Limited 6MT Stock. I am trying to figure out if what I am experiencing with acceleration is normal or not. I always see reviews, videos, vblogs of people talking about going WOT on their 2015+ WRXs, but for me, I never do WOT acceleration because it actually feels slower, then using 40-50% throttle, which seems counter-intuitive to me.
For Example, if I am in 2nd or 3rd gear at around 2500-3000rpm, and roll into the throttle, and put it to the floor, the acceleration feels bogged down or held back. In the same scenario, if I roll into the throttle and keep it at 40-50%, the acceleration feels like it should. In fact, in any situation, WOT always feels bogged down, and ~50% feels much better, so I basically never do WOT acceleration.
Is this normal, and just a characteristic of the stock tune, or is something wrong?
For Example, if I am in 2nd or 3rd gear at around 2500-3000rpm, and roll into the throttle, and put it to the floor, the acceleration feels bogged down or held back. In the same scenario, if I roll into the throttle and keep it at 40-50%, the acceleration feels like it should. In fact, in any situation, WOT always feels bogged down, and ~50% feels much better, so I basically never do WOT acceleration.
Is this normal, and just a characteristic of the stock tune, or is something wrong?
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Those are the exact characteristics I get with my 2016.
Apparently a tune fixes a lot of this but at this point I'm not willing to give up my bumper to bumper. The car still fun to drive for me as long as I stay at its peek power bands.
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Apparently a tune fixes a lot of this but at this point I'm not willing to give up my bumper to bumper. The car still fun to drive for me as long as I stay at its peek power bands.
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It has everything to do with the stock throttle mapping. This reason alone is why it took me so long to master moving from a stop and going over speed bumps (learned how to drive a manual the day I got it).
My dealership is mod friendly so they installed an AP and the OTS Cobb tune fixes this with their throttle map. The difference is night and day, it allows you to drive the car how you want to drive it by being much more predictable and no more surges of speed just to let off or press the brakes. I currently have a Stage 1 BrenTuning eTune and I feel that is hands down the best improvement I've done to the car so far. 40% throttle is actually 40% throttle and it pulls harder and more consistently over the powerband.
The throttle map from the factory is very sensitive and makes the car feel faster at first because you're accelerating faster by pressing the pedal less but it also peaks around 40% so when you're WOT it's pretty much the same thing. I don't like this, don't know why they included this from the factory but it is what it is.
My dealership is mod friendly so they installed an AP and the OTS Cobb tune fixes this with their throttle map. The difference is night and day, it allows you to drive the car how you want to drive it by being much more predictable and no more surges of speed just to let off or press the brakes. I currently have a Stage 1 BrenTuning eTune and I feel that is hands down the best improvement I've done to the car so far. 40% throttle is actually 40% throttle and it pulls harder and more consistently over the powerband.
The throttle map from the factory is very sensitive and makes the car feel faster at first because you're accelerating faster by pressing the pedal less but it also peaks around 40% so when you're WOT it's pretty much the same thing. I don't like this, don't know why they included this from the factory but it is what it is.
This pretty much nails itIt has everything to do with the stock throttle mapping. This reason alone is why it took me so long to master moving from a stop and going over speed bumps (learned how to drive a manual the day I got it).
My dealership is mod friendly so they installed an AP and the OTS Cobb tune fixes this with their throttle map. The difference is night and day, it allows you to drive the car how you want to drive it by being much more predictable and no more surges of speed just to let off or press the brakes. I currently have a Stage 1 BrenTuning eTune and I feel that is hands down the best improvement I've done to the car so far. 40% throttle is actually 40% throttle and it pulls harder and more consistently over the powerband.
The throttle map from the factory is very sensitive and makes the car feel faster at first because you're accelerating faster by pressing the pedal less but it also peaks around 40% so when you're WOT it's pretty much the same thing. I don't like this, don't know why they included this from the factory but it is what it is.
So which is the real you? This avatar or the previous one? I like this one man.
Haha! :rotfl: The previous picture is the real me, this one is me with a Snapchat filter that makes your cheeks big and adds glasses.So which is the real you? This avatar or the previous one? I like this one man.
As mentioned with the throttle mapping. Unlike older cable driven cars the pedal to throttle position isn't linear. That accounts for a lot of what you are feeling. You've also got to contend with getting the power transfered to the ground effectively. If you are just flat footing it from a roll you are likely pulling through a lower gear fast enough it doesn't feel as quick because of the sooner shift.
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Thanks for the info guys! I am glad to know it is normal and nothing is wrong with the car. I am starting to understand why everyone complains that the stock tune sucks.
Where is this mod friendly dealership ???It has everything to do with the stock throttle mapping. This reason alone is why it took me so long to master moving from a stop and going over speed bumps (learned how to drive a manual the day I got it).
My dealership is mod friendly so they installed an AP and the OTS Cobb tune fixes this with their throttle map. The difference is night and day, it allows you to drive the car how you want to drive it by being much more predictable and no more surges of speed just to let off or press the brakes. I currently have a Stage 1 BrenTuning eTune and I feel that is hands down the best improvement I've done to the car so far. 40% throttle is actually 40% throttle and it pulls harder and more consistently over the powerband.
The throttle map from the factory is very sensitive and makes the car feel faster at first because you're accelerating faster by pressing the pedal less but it also peaks around 40% so when you're WOT it's pretty much the same thing. I don't like this, don't know why they included this from the factory but it is what it is.
As mentioned with the throttle mapping. Unlike older cable driven cars the pedal to throttle position isn't linear. That accounts for a lot of what you are feeling. You've also got to contend with getting the power transfered to the ground effectively. If you are just flat footing it from a roll you are likely pulling through a lower gear fast enough it doesn't feel as quick because of the sooner shift.
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I don't see any avatars, at all, since Tapatalk pushed is recent update.So which is the real you? This avatar or the previous one? I like this one man.
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Is it only because you bought the car from them that they are mod friendly? Or would they cover others warranty claims as well even though the car wasn't bought from them? Hmm..It's in Maryland where I live.
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They're mod friendly only if they've installed the mods themselves. I'm not sure if you have to purchase the car initially from them to allow them to install mods or not but I got mine from them and my Stage 1. They have a stage 2 WRX on their showroom floor for sale, they get sold very quickly once they're out. The picture I have of the upgrade list that was sitting in the rear view mirror isn't the clearest but here it is.Is it only because you bought the car from them that they are mod friendly? Or would they cover others warranty claims as well even though the car wasn't bought from them? Hmm..
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Those cars have zero factory warranty. They are warrantied at that dealer alone out of their own pocket. One simple change at that dealership and any coverage you hope to have is gone. Happens all the time.
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More or less, we'll agree to disagree to prevent a debate, haha. I do understand and see your perspective though.Those cars have zero factory warranty. They are warrantied at that dealer alone out of their own pocket. One simple change at that dealership and any coverage you hope to have is gone. Happens all the time.
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$370 for rally armor mud flaps. Am I reading this right? Defuq?They're mod friendly only if they've installed the mods themselves. I'm not sure if you have to purchase the car initially from them to allow them to install mods or not but I got mine from them and my Stage 1. They have a stage 2 WRX on their showroom floor for sale, they get sold very quickly once they're out. The picture I have of the upgrade list that was sitting in the rear view mirror isn't the clearest but here it is.
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From what I can make out, some of the other items are also grossly marked up. Like that short throw shiftier, is that $700+ I see?
Actually, it looks like the STS is $790.$370 for rally armor mud flaps. Am I reading this right? Defuq?
From what I can make out, some of the other items are also grossly marked up. Like that short throw shiftier, is that $700+ I see?
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I work in sales, and let me tell you, that is a trash mark up
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The markups are indeed hilarious which is why I won't be going to them for any of that.
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