[WRXCAR86]

Hello everyone,
I am new to this Forum, I am seeing if anyone else has blown their FA20DIT? I was driving on the highway around 60MPH went to pass a car and then the ticking started. I made it to an off ramp and that's when it blew. The car shut off and the dash lit up, once I came to a stop smoke starting rolling out from the hood. This just happened Friday and my shop hasn't had a chance to really give it a full look over yet, But it seems like it shouldn't have happened that easy. Car has been running great up until this happened.

The car does have mods:
-TBE
-Cobb Intake
-TGV Delete
-EGR Delete
-Delicious tune
-AOS (this should not effect anything)

 

[EJ257]

Sorry to hear. Report back when they tear down with their findings...

 

[anarekist]

sorry man, what a crappy xmas

 

[WRXCAR86]

The more research I do it is looking like a spin bearing that cause rod failure. Has anyone experience this? I’m far from a mechanic but the way I was driving should not have caused this.

 

[XJman]

The more research I do it is looking like a spin bearing that cause rod failure. Has anyone experience this? I’m far from a mechanic but the way I was driving should not have caused this.

If you starve the engine of oil you can spin a bearing at idle.

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[ProZach626]

I'm curious if you accidentally lugged the engine. How much gas did you give it when you went to pass. What's an honest estimate of the percent of your throttle? How low were your RPM'S when you went to pass? Did you down shift?

Sorry this happened.

 

[WRXCAR86]

I wasn’t lugging the car at all, I was in 5th and down shifted to 4th RPM’s were around 4K to 45k when i felt it. The oil was full and halfway through its life, gas was around half tank. From what my mechanic said , all of these factors should not have caused a spun bearing. I’m going to reach out to my dealer this week and see what they say, if they can’t help I’ll talk to SOA. Thanks guy

 

[XJman]

I wasn’t lugging the car at all, I was in 5th and down shifted to 4th RPM’s were around 4K to 45k when i felt it. The oil was full and halfway through its life, gas was around half tank. From what my mechanic said , all of these factors should not have caused a spun bearing. I’m going to reach out to my dealer this week and see what they say, if they can’t help I’ll talk to SOA. Thanks guy

Be sure to have a solid necropsy done. Unless you hit a wrong gear or something what you described on a healthy engine shouldn't be a concern. You'll want the issue identified so if it's a bad accessory part like pickup or pump it doesn't go back onto the new block

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[why2kmax]

curious when did you do the mods/tune? At what mileage and when year wise? In 2015 or Recently or?

 

[WRXCAR86]

Most of the mods were done over the past two years, the final tune was done a few months ago. Never had any issues up until Friday night. The car had new plugs installed and walnut blasting done recently as regular maintenance. I never beat the car, it was nice having the extra power but I’ve never been the kind of person to drive at red line.

 

[willzilla]

Ouch :-/

Returning it to stock before taking to dealer?

 

[XJman]

Ouch :-/

Returning it to stock before taking to dealer?

Why so they can deny it because you modified it?

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[why2kmax]

Most of the mods were done over the past two years, the final tune was done a few months ago. Never had any issues up until Friday night. The car had new plugs installed and walnut blasting done recently as regular maintenance. I never beat the car, it was nice having the extra power but I’ve never been the kind of person to drive at red line.

forgive the poss obvious answer but you say it was done over 2 years with final tune done a few months ago.

Assuming you DID RE-tune every time you did an engine mod as you went along?
Was the final tune done after the walnut blasting etc?

Just looking for some reason it let go. If you did the final tune and then the walnut blasting that would be detrimental. Same with not tuning after an intake change or Jpipe or TGV delete etc.

 

[WRXCAR86]

Tunes were done after each mod was installed, walnut blasting was done at same time as final tune. I will be returning the car back to stock before bringing it in to see if that helps.

 

[Blk17WRX]

Tunes were done after each mod was installed, walnut blasting was done at same time as final tune. I will be returning the car back to stock before bringing it in to see if that helps.

Once they see your car was flashed you are screwed either way. Flashing it back is pointless because they can see it has been previously flashed. Especially if you got it tuned after each of those mods. They'll see 4-6 flashes done on the ECU and instantly deny your claim when the dealer has no service record of a flash getting done to the ECU.

 

[WRXCAR86]

I’m not saying that’s not a possibility, but I have heard of some cases that they did the work. It’s worth a shot. If they turn me down then I’ll have my shop do the work.

 

[Goose42]

Pay to play.

 

[ProZach626]

Good luck with the dealership, but I wouldn't be optimistic. If you lie to them, they'll be more adamant about denying your claim. They can identify the wear on the bolts, exhaust components, etc, pretty easily to determine the car has been modified. The flash will be the smoking gun. Just be honest with them.

You can call SOA. They will be extremely nice and courteous to you, but after speaking with the dealership they'll likely continue to be polite and respectful as they tell you you're on your own.

My advice? Be prepared to take a chunk out of your savings. Hopefully you have enough to cover the spread.

 

[why2kmax]

Tunes were done after each mod was installed, walnut blasting was done at same time as final tune. I will be returning the car back to stock before bringing it in to see if that helps.

Well it doesnt sound like you did anything wrong procedure wise. Im not a mechanic but it seems oil starvation was at least a probable reason for it going south, which I dont think would be caused by Tuning or the mods you did do. As others have said the dealership will know you did a bunch of mods just by looking at what was disturbed, moved, bolts and the ECU flashes.

Id find the most enthusiast/mod friendly dealer in your area, leave it as is, be honest with them and make a case that the mods were done correctly and were not the cause of the failure. They will likely still turn you down, but if you go in there claiming the car was stock they will know you are lying and you are done immediately. At least this way you have a chance albeit slim.

 

[willzilla]

Once they see your car was flashed you are screwed either way. Flashing it back is pointless because they can see it has been previously flashed. Especially if you got it tuned after each of those mods. They'll see 4-6 flashes done on the ECU and instantly deny your claim when the dealer has no service record of a flash getting done to the ECU.

Everything I've read (and from what Cobb has said) is that there is NO flash counter and no way for the dealer to see how many times the car has been flashed and the only thing they can see is the last time the ECU was reset... Thus, flash it back to stock and take it in a few days later.. "your battery died".. or some such, if worried about it... Older info though so maybe that has changed in 2015+?