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So I have 2017 limited and I am inching towards the first 1000 miles just wondering why some people on here say I should change the oil at 1000 miles and the owners manual says the first change should be done at 6000 miles. I would think the owners manual is taking in account the break in process for this as well.
 

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Personal preference. On break in there is a lot of debris trapped by the oil and that's not good to have floating through the system, and can cause premature filling of the oil filter media. I've been told years ago companies used a special break in oil and required the first oil change to be earlier than the normal interval. Honestly I don't know of any vehicles that do this, but that has also hung around and led to this.

Honestly, I don't see it hurting anything either way

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I opted to do the first oil change at 1,000 miles and regular oil changes between 3,000-5,000 miles since I figured the short time and chunk of change to change out the oil would give me some peace of mind in the engine's longevity . . . I figure it can only help improve things long-term. That said . . . if someone was to follow the owner's manual I suspect they would be fine as well.
 

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I too did mine at 1000 and then regular after that. The people at the dealership were like, "uhh your a little early on this oil change." Yes I am now just change the oil.
 

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I opted to do the first oil change at 1,000 miles and regular oil changes between 3,000-5,000 miles since I figured the short time and chunk of change to change out the oil would give me some peace of mind in the engine's longevity . . . I figure it can only help improve things long-term. That said . . . if someone was to follow the owner's manual I suspect they would be fine as well.
+1 to this, though I've always changed mine more in the 3000-4000 mile range, after the first one.
 

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I also did my oil change at 1,000miles as well. Like Firefighterjake said, it does give you peace of mind.. it wont hurt anything.

I too did mine at 1000 and then regular after that. The people at the dealership were like, "uhh your a little early on this oil change." Yes I am now just change the oil.
Haha thats what my dealer said too. "uhh you are little early"
 

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Oil, filters and assembly environments are so much better nowadays. If I recall correctly, Subaru recommends 6,000 mile changes.
For ease of keeping track I'm changing my WRX oil at 5,000 mile intervals and fully expect this engine to go 200,000+ miles.
 

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Oil, filters and assembly environments are so much better nowadays. For ease of keeping track I'm changing my WRX oil at 5,000 mile intervals and fully expect this engine to go 200,000+ miles.
It's more manufacturing tolerances that come into play. And though we have gotten far better with accuracy and repeatability, we are far from perfect as an industry.

On our spring lines we go to great lengths to make sure our springs are consistent, broken in, and ready to go. However some manufacturers couldn't be bothered to care about how uneven or unmatched product is, and often times at the rate of production our lines face, that is what they get. As long as the parts bolt together they don't care.

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It's more manufacturing tolerances that come into play. And though we have gotten far better with accuracy and repeatability, we are far from perfect as an industry.

On our spring lines we go to great lengths to make sure our springs are consistent, broken in, and ready to go. However some manufacturers couldn't be bothered to care about how uneven or unmatched product is, and often times at the rate of production our lines face, that is what they get. As long as the parts bolt together they don't care.
I'm not quite sure of the connection and relevance of the "tolerance" argument. Generally there'd have to be a fairly severe out-of-tolerance condition to create early pre-mature wear and usually result in warranty claims somewhere down the road. These conditions would not be made better by early and more frequent oil changes.

I'm currently a quality & warranty engineer at a major Tier 1 automotive supplier that shipped just over $1B in automotive parts last year. Every customer we have has cleanliness requirements for incoming precision parts and this is monitored on a regular basis to ensure compliance. Subaru, as with the rest, also have additional secondary QA controls on supplier components prior to their engine assembly.

I'm not saying early and more frequent oil changes will hurt anything, unless the manufacturer did have special break-in additives (and there are a few that still do). I'm just saying this is more about folklore perpetuated on forums and makes everyone feel good, but is ultimately a waste of money. :(

But it goes to reason seeing that for most of us participating in these types of forums, the automobile has a strong emotional connection. So if you got the extra time and money...go for it! ;)
 

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That's where you are wrong. When it comes to bearing surfaces cylinder bore size and roundness, piston size, ring size and corner breaks it all makes a huge difference. I also work for a large OEM supplier with beyond a billion in sales. The smallest things make huge impacts.

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It won't hurt anything. I'd rather get the metal shavings from break in out of the engine ASAP and run clean oil and filter for the next few thousand miles.

Don't forget to factor in that OEM has some pressure to stretch oil changes as it lowers the reported maintenance costs of the vehicle and saves the company big time money if you have a plan where they pay for the oil changes. Why do you think BMW/Mini can go 10,000 miles (if the computer detects low stress on the engine) on a change? It saves them money.
 

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Thanks for all the advice seems like since it won't hurt anything I'll probably just have it changed at 1000. Do you guys recommend using the dealer for oil changes I know they use factory parts like the oil filter but does that really matter in the skeem of things or can I just have it serviced at Standard service spot to save some $$
 

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^ Stay away from the Jiffy Lube joints... If you are going to change it yourself, be sure to save your receipts, and keep good records.
 

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@Goose42, why do you say that? Only asking because I typically use a buddy's mechanic shop for my mild maintenance

in regards to the original thread/topic, I just changed my oil at about 1025 miles on my 2017 WRX Base (@ aforementioned buddy's mechanic shop). Then I'll be doing the recommended scheduled maintenance with the dealer since it's included for 2 years.
 

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@Goose42, why do you say that? Only asking because I typically use a buddy's mechanic shop for my mild maintenance

in regards to the original thread/topic, I just changed my oil at about 1025 miles on my 2017 WRX Base (@ aforementioned buddy's mechanic shop). Then I'll be doing the recommended scheduled maintenance with the dealer since it's included for 2 years.
If you trust your buddy, that's on you. A typical oil monkey at Jiffy Lube could care less about your car. Numerous reports of mishaps at those types of establishments. As I said before, if you do not let the dealer do the Maintenance, keep meticulous records, and save receipts.
 
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