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    4EAT Basic Information FAQ

    This FAQ was created to assist new or potential automatic WRX owners learn more about their vehicle and to help clarify some basic questions that are commonly asked. When I first purchased my vehicle, I quickly found out that the information I was looking for was scarce, and the little that I did find was muddled with personal opinion and prejudice. The information contained in this FAQ was taken from several forums and a couple months of research.

    General Information

    4EAT stands for Four-Speed Electronic Automatic Transmission. This simply means that your vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission with four gears. The gears for the 4EAT are as follows: (credit to WRXNate)

    Automatic transmission gear ratios:
    1st - 2.785
    2nd - 1.545
    3rd - 1.000
    4th - 0.694
    reverse - 2.272
    final drive ratio - 4.11

    Each gear can be taken to the following MPH (Credit to BrandonWRX)

    1st-38
    2nd-71
    3rd-112

    The 4EAT is also equipped with the VTD (Variable Torque Distribution) AWD system. This AWD system adjusts power to wheels depending on driving conditions, making it more technically advanced than the AWD system used in manual-equipped vehicles. The normal driving split is 45% to the front wheels and 55% to the rear wheels.

    How does the 4EAT differ from the 5MT? Is it better or worse for performance?

    The first difference between the 4EAT and 5MT is the AWD system. 5MT models use a permanent 50/50 split between the front and rear wheels, whereas models equipped with the automatic make use of the technically superior VTD system (mentioned above). The second difference is the gearing. The 4EAT uses 4 gears to make use of its power, where 5MT models make use of 5 gears. The manual’s more aggressively tuned gearing allows for faster acceleration.

    From a stop: The 4EAT (stock) is much different performance-wise than the 5MT. Models equipped with the 5MT are able to achieve their pavement-rippling sub-six second 0-60 and low 14 second ¼ mile times thanks to its ability to launch at 4000+ RPM. Models equipped with the 4EAT must use the brake-torque technique (See WRX’s FAQ on how to launch. I also take no responsibilty for potential damage caused to your car using this technique), however, stock 4EATs using this method can only launch at a maximum 3200 RPM, leading to a 0-60 time in the low 7 second range and a ¼ mile in the mid-to-high 15 second range.

    From a roll: Judging from the very few 4EAT vs 5MT races that I have studied, a 5MT will have about a 2 car lead on a similarly equipped 4EAT in a race from 40 MPH to 100 MPH. Please note that in the few documented races known, the 4EAT begins to trail after it shifts to 3rd gear, leading me to believe that the 4EAT’s major weakness are it’s gear ratios.

    Stock 5MT models dyno at around 170 WHP where 4EAT models dyno at around 150 WHP. From my research, I have noticed about a 20-25 WHP difference between similarly equipped 4EAT and 5MT WRX’s due to the extra driveline loss through the torque converter.

    What you need to make the 4EAT comparable to a 5MT in acceleration and ¼ mile times.

    You need a high stall torque converter. The main purpose of this mod is to raise the stall speed from 3200 RPM to around the 4200 RPM range, allowing the 4EAT to run 0-60 and quarter mile times consistent with 5MT equipped vehicles. This mod is a MUST HAVE if you are planning on consistently drag racing your vehicle. The use of this mod for owners whom do not consistently drag race is debatable. Some argue that it increases daily drivability, others argue that it does not. Do a search if you decide to go this route.

    I am not interested in 0-60 or ¼ mile times, how else can I make my 4EAT a better daily driver?

    Although this is highly subjective, the general consensus is that the best method to increase your 4EAT’s driveability is by installing an aftermarket uppipe and downpipe . This will virtually eliminate turbo-lag and give much better low and mid-range power. You can also add engine management to take full advantage of your modifications to further increase responsiveness and decrease lag.

    Best First Mod for the 4EAT

    Although the idea of the best first mod is highly subjective, I, along with many others, feel that an aftermarket uppipe is the best first modification for the money. This modification greatly decreases turbo-lag, causing the car to perform better in all circumstances.

    Best New Turbo for the 4EAT

    The general consensus is that the VF29, VF30, VF34, VF35 are the best turbo replacements for the 4EAT. Both the VF 30 and 34 have decent spool-up, with good mid-range and top end. The VF29 and 35 spools around the same as stock, but makes more power. Again, this is highly subjective as any turbo that can be used on the 5MT models can also be used on the 4EAT models.

    Of course, you will also need the necessary supporting mods to run a new turbo. A great deal of research must be done if you decide that a new turbo upgrade is right for you.

    Using a Blow-Off Valve on a 4EAT

    Yes, it can be done, but the difference between using a BOV on a 4EAT is that you will not hear the “pssshhh” sound when the transmission shifts. This is because the 4EAT holds it’s boost during shifts. Verdugo, our resident moderator, has tried out many aftermarket BOVs and determined that only one worked correctly: The HKS.

    APS- Smoothest of the bunch, but could not be heard at all.
    Blitz- Would not function properly
    Greddy- Would not function properly
    TurboXS- Would not function properly
    HKS- Best BOV, works fine at all boost levels

    I heard that the transmission in the Auto can hold more power than the transmission that is used in the manual. Is this true?

    Yes, this is true up to a point. The general consensus is that the 4EAT is a stronger transmission than the 5MT and will last a very long time as long as it is properly maintained and the abuse is kept to the minimum.The 4EAT is an extremely hard transmission to “break,” but it is unable to cope with too much extra power because it’s shifts are still tuned for stock levels. Once you begin to cross to cross the 250 WHP barrier, you need to consider “beefing up” your transmission. This need increases if you plan on launching your vehicle or driving it hard on a consistant basis. Very few people have actually broken the "teeth" of the 4EAT, and the only one I know of is RobPA, who was running 400 WHP with nitrous. Slow4EAT will soon have a FAQ covering everything about strengthening and maintaining your 4EAT.

    Can I manually shift the transmission ala Manumatic?

    Although available as a true manumatic in Japan, the American version of the automatic WRX does not contain that feature. You may manually select the gears, although there is little purpose as A) manually shifting from a stop will not net you better acceleration and B) it does put extra stress on your transmission. I would be lying if I said that I didn’t manually shift the car from a stop once in a while, but there really isn’t any point to it.

    However, the manual functionality of the 4EAT can be useful for proper power delivery when cornering, it can also be used to place the car in a better gear when racing from a roll.

    4EAT Idiosyncracies

    The automatic in the WRX is a lot different than any other automatic that I have driven. The 5MT guys can choose the gear that they want their car to be in, keeping the car in it’s optimal power band. We can do that as well, it just takes knowing how to fully use the automatic to take advantage of the car’s powerband. Lets review the different gear selections on the automatic gear shifter. (please note that the following information is intended towards stock vehicles. The rules are completely different for modded or even lightly modded cars).

    1: This is a special situation gear (explained further in the manual) It should be used rarely, if never. Some owners like to start out in 1 to ‘manually shift” the gears. Please note that the transmission will not automatically upshift while in 1, so when you shift into the next gear, make sure to do so at least 1000 RPMs early because of the shifting delay.

    2: This is also a special situation gear (explained further in your manual). Starting off in 2 will start your car in 2nd gear, not first, making it perfect for dyno tuning, but doesn’t make much sense for daily driving. Please note that the transmission will not automatically upshift, so make sure to shift at least 1000 RPM early because of the shifting delay.

    3rd gear is sometimes referred to in other cars as “D.” By selecting 3 The car will drive normally but will not upshift into 4. Selecting 3 is ideal when you are driving in any situation where you will not be maintaining a constant speed (while driving in the city, for example, or climbing a steep grade). By selecting 3, your car will also be much more willing to downshift into 2 when extra power is required, making 3 the Power Gear of the WRX. Interestingly enough, there have been some reports of a .2 second better time at the track thanks to the more aggressive torque split while in 3.

    D is sometimes referred to in other cars as “OD.” By selecting D, the car will drive normally and shift into 4th gear as soon as it can. This is only ideal while maintaining a constant speed (Highway, freeway driving). While in D, the car does not like to downshift into 2nd gear, making it a poor gear selection for times when quick passing response is necessary.

    Will I regret purchasing the Automatic WRX?

    I cannot answer this, it’s up to you to decide if the automatic is right for you. Please do yourself a favor and test drive both versions and then determine which one suits your needs and desires the best.

    Credit to those who have suggested ammendments.
    -B.Buckly
    -EATWrx
    Last edited by VitaminWRX; 10-17-2004 at 12:40 AM.
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    best damn post ever.....
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    I'd like to add that please do not do back to back launches/brake stalls in your 4EAT WRX/RS, this happened to mine and the high heat caused the oil pump with in the tranny to fail...just imagine how the tranny looked when it was running after the oil had stopped circulating....

    again this is a perfect post, good job dude
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    More information will be posted soon (first post got maxed out) Thanks to all for the positive feedback.
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