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    HP ans TQ readings from cobbs virtual dyno

    I was wondering if this is possible close to real world numbers I loaded 93 mt stage 1 into my vehicle and these are the readings I put the vehicle weight at 3575lbs. 3rd gear pull
    rpm tq hp
    3229 343.83 211.39
    3301 313.79 197.22
    3361 286.79 183.53
    3420 297.89 193.98
    3490 302.23 200.83
    3556 304.2 205.96
    3633 299.42 207.12
    3730 292.65 207.84
    3788 279.28 201.43
    3880 275.46 203.5
    3936 278.54 208.74
    4012 300.01 229.18
    4093 326.15 254.17
    4143 338.28 266.85
    4206 337.08 269.95
    4294 334.34 273.35
    4368 316.12 262.91
    4424 290.41 244.63
    4526 283.45 244.27
    4587 278.38 243.13
    4646 281.48 249.01
    4712 289.47 259.71
    4767 294.57 267.36
    4837 284.99 262.47
    4910 299.23 279.74
    5001 318.89 303.65
    5062 302.16 291.23
    5110 286.46 278.71
    5225 300.55 299.01
    5278 286.7 288.12
    5337 nan nan
    5428 nan nan
    5502 nan nan
    5436 nan nan
    5536 nan nan
    5593 311.36 331.58
    5642 321.58 345.46
    5692 277.26 300.49
    5764 259.3 284.58
    5821 235.92 261.48

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    These numbers are not close to what you are putting down at the wheels on a stage 1 tune.

    You should be making somewhere around 235-245 HP and 250-260 lb/ft of torque, both of these number ranges are at the wheels.
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    So what do you think is wrong, I thought I seen close to the same on cobbs site be it that they were lower but it was only 12F out when I ran it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subaru2014 View Post
    So what do you think is wrong, I thought I seen close to the same on cobbs site be it that they were lower but it was only 12F out when I ran it.
    There is nothing wrong per say. The Cobb AP will always give you higher numbers than an actual dyno that measures the real output at the wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McBill View Post
    These numbers are not close to what you are putting down at the wheels on a stage 1 tune.

    You should be making somewhere around 235-245 HP and 250-260 lb/ft of torque, both of these number ranges are at the wheels.
    I think this vehicle is close and similar to mine it was 2f out and i'm at about 800 ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subaru2014 View Post
    I think this vehicle is close and similar to mine it was 2f out and i'm at about 800 ft.
    Is this graph from a dyno? Because there is no way to measure real HP and torque to the wheels on a street pull. Yes they can give you an estimate but a Dyno is very accurate. You don't see 280HP levels to the wheels until you have a full stage 2 setup. If you really want to find out what you are making to the wheels you need to go to a dyno, or you can see what other people are running ON THE DYNO at stage 1 with no bolt ons, not on the Cobb AP's estimated power graph.
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    I'm pretty sure the map notes tell you an estimate of how much power you gain...
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    You know what ill do is run base line stock run and see what that is ,by the way what is stock on a real dyno supposed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBill View Post
    Is this graph from a dyno? Because there is no way to measure real HP and torque to the wheels on a street pull. Yes they can give you an estimate but a Dyno is very accurate. You don't see 280HP levels to the wheels until you have a full stage 2 setup. If you really want to find out what you are making to the wheels you need to go to a dyno, or you can see what other people are running ON THE DYNO at stage 1 with no bolt ons, not on the Cobb AP's estimated power graph.
    You know what ill do is run base line stock run and see what that is ,by the way what is stock on a real dyno supposed to be.

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    I feel like some should read this Dyno FAQ

    You have to understand that not all dyno's read the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    I feel like some should read this Dyno FAQ

    You have to understand that not all dyno's read the same.
    I already realized of there being differences in Dynos ,Hell one mustang dyno next to another could read different the point was not for navigational forum help. It was to understand what others with this tune and set up have gotten with a real dyno and for a little discussion because these numbers seemed high in the cobbs virtual dyno world . sticky faq are great and i use them and honestly hate the search engine on about any site except for software help searches because they always come back with out a topic or just faq or sticky and 60 pages reading and bump, bump and make this a sticky ,not that fun when you just want to communicate with humans.

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    Look at the damn map notes. It gives you a hp percentage that you gain by flashing the stage 1 93. That's gonna be better then asking anyone cause most likely if they have had it on a dyno they have a custom tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subaru2014 View Post
    You know what ill do is run base line stock run and see what that is ,by the way what is stock on a real dyno supposed to be.
    You'll have to look it up. But I would guess somewhere in the ball park of 220HP to the wheels and I'm not sure about torque.

    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    I feel like some should read this Dyno FAQ

    You have to understand that not all dyno's read the same.
    ^yes read up. Not one dyno will read the same. But I feel in the end it is far more accurate than using the Cobb AP to try and get a HP reading. Because, again, you don't even get those numbers your AP is displaying to the ground on a stage 2 setup.
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