This makes me laugh considering I have 105k miles and 303whp through the stock clutch on my 2003. Granted I probably have less torque than a stock 2011 WRX.
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Does anyone else ever accidentally come off the clutch too late when up shifting to 4th and 5th? I find I do this on accident occasionally and the result is a painful jerk as my engine RPM is too low for the higher cruising speed in 4th and 5th.
My problem seems to be that I am slightly riding my clutch or easing off of it in the higher gears out of being an overtly cautious and careful owner. I simply find when I'm just cruising around town and not driving spiritedly I can't feel when I'm at the engagement point. Not to quote Fast & Furious but I sort of "double clutch it" like a truck driver. This car feels like it wants you to just be rough with the clutch, it almost wants you to dump it and get on the gas.
Kind of a funny story, before I got my car In Sept of last year I almost bought a red '12 base used. Car had 6k miles on it and dealer was asking an unrealistic $29k for it and wouldn't budge, even said I could not test drive it unless I agreed to a credit check or put down $500 Lol WTF.
Anyway the story on the car was that they sold it originally new to a lady the fried the clutch "twice" they put a clutch in it 2x's in 6k miles lol. She complained she simply could not drive it, so they bought it back after the second clutch (on Subaru's dime) I thought how could this be, but now I get how this cars clutch and stick could be a handful if you really arnt a car person.
Current vehicles:
2013 WRX Sedan, Base, SWP, Wingless
2011 Outback, Premium, 2.5i, CVT , SWP
2011 Ford F-150, SuperCab, XLT, 5.0L, V8
This makes me laugh considering I have 105k miles and 303whp through the stock clutch on my 2003. Granted I probably have less torque than a stock 2011 WRX.
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Originally Posted by Mikie13
I've driven a bug eye before, and for me it was a lot easier drive than my '13, I don't know if it was because those cars were slightly smaller or if the trans was a different design. I remember driving the 2.5RS back in 1999-2000 and it too was easier.
I also don't think torque has anything to do with it as this car feels about as powerful as my wife's 170hp Outback below 3000 RPM.
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2011 Ford F-150, SuperCab, XLT, 5.0L, V8
I find that the clutch in my new '13 WRX is much easier to use than the one on my '02 Outback. That thing's release point seemed to move hourly, depending on the temperature, humidity, and the aspect of Venus. The WRX has the same issues with reverse, but I'm used to the "Subaru dance" to get it in.
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I'm glad to say I haven't yet smoked the clutch. Nor do I have a problem with first-to-second or reverse. Fifth gear is my problem. My car does not like going into 5th gear. But the clutch engagement of this car is probably the worst I've driven.
I've only ever owned manual cars in the 18 years I've been driving and I worked in sales at several car dealerships over several years. So, I'm used to driving manuals. Never, ever can I change gear smoothly in my WRX. There's always a jarring as the clutch engages. I don't know whether it's the clutch or something to do with the differential, but it simply feels like the clutch is an on/off switch. The gear is either engaged or it's not and the car is going to let you know.
I don't really remember if I had problems when I first got the car, but I can definitely say that now after 15k miles I have no issues with operating the transmission of this car, whether I want to drive smoothly or otherwise. I have had plenty of experience with driving manuals, but not as much as you.
Obviously everyone's perception is different, but I really can't relate to the horror story you're spinning at all. Have you considered there might be something wrong with the car?
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i wonder if the older 5 speeds are more reliable then the current...that's hat it seems like at least
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Originally Posted by Mikie13
Sucker caused me to stall constantly for weeks. Turned it off... life was good. I don't like having the car decide when to let go of the brakes. My foot and/or handbrake do a great job without it.
I haven't read around much, but I do not believe there is an easy way to turn it off on the WRX model. Apparently Subaru thought that only STi drivers should have the luxury of not fighting with their cars "features"
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I have close to 200K miles of standard transmission driving experience, and I must admit that my 13' wrx is a PITA!
Whoever said that the clutch doesnt bite enough is dead on imo, I cant ever seem to get the feel for what rpm I should be at to start the car from a dead stop. Too much and the clutch slips like crazy, not enough and you bog the motor down or stall.
I am slowly getting better with driving it, but it still is a chore....
I had never driven stick in my life like I said and I have 4500 miles of experience and its no issue making it smooth anymore. Maybe there's something wrong with some of your cars..
Well, I think there's something wrong with all of them. A design flaw. But if you have no other experience of manual transmission, you probably don't know how a smooth gear change is supposed to feel. I mean no offense when I say that, it's just that you have no frame of reference.
If anyone wants to know how this car is supposed to shift, or Subaru for that matter. I advise driving any Honda/ Acura product made over the last two decades. The S2K clutch and gearbox might be the best shifting & clutch ever made. Subaru would sell- out of these cars and have people lining up on waiting lists paying top dollar if this car shifted like an S2K. IMO for what we all paid for these cars there is no reason the gear box should row like a truck and the clutch be lifeless, NONE.
I bet Subaru put a half-@rsed gearbox in this car in hopes of weening us all off manual transmissions so they can finally nail the coffin once and for all on manuals and put their CVT in the WRX's
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Current vehicles:
2013 WRX Sedan, Base, SWP, Wingless
2011 Outback, Premium, 2.5i, CVT , SWP
2011 Ford F-150, SuperCab, XLT, 5.0L, V8
Well i just traded in a 2013 Focus ST in for my new 2013 WRX. That ST shifted like a knife in hot butter compared to my WRX! There has to be maybe better tranny fluid or something to at least make it shift smoother? Its like when i shift yes it goes into gear fine but you can feel something like trying to lightly bite right before the end of the shift! Really gritty! I still love the car tho.. Love the AWD and style better! So is there better fluid for this tranny? Sometimes that helps!!
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