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This is a discussion on Short Throw Shifters -- SPT, Cobb, Kartboy? within the Transmission & AWD forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX Nope, can't remember where, I think it was in one of the 'similiar threads' that I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX View Post
    Nope, can't remember where, I think it was in one of the 'similiar threads' that I saw at the bottom of the page, or it could have been on nasioc. I really like the idea of the Cobb cause I could retain the stock height but change the throw length. Does it take much time to make either adjustment?
    The adjustments are very easy with everything off. Try to get the height and throw right before you put it all back together...unlike me, who had to take their console off 3 more times. On a brighter note, now I'm really fast at taking it apart and putting it back together. :-) If I had to do it over, I would test drive it with no center console or shift boot on and make all the adjustments then.
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    Theses are essential TiC 5MT Lever Pivot Bushings - WIDE

    These are the shift linkage bushings.They will fit your 2011.I have them lying around the garage but have yet to install them TiC 06-08 Subaru Shift Linkage Bushings
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    Digging up one of your old posts to help the OP -



    A: Shift Linkage Bushings
    B: Short Throw Shifter
    C: Pivot Bushings
    D: Front Shifter Stay Bushing
    E: Rear Shifter Stay Bushing

    He hasn't installed them yet, because it's a PITA. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokey View Post
    He hasn't installed them yet, because it's a PITA. :-)
    Lol,true.You have given me new inspiration.I will do them & the X members next weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage-wrx View Post
    I will do them & the X members next weekend.
    Did you go with the full replacements or just the inserts (like lazy, old me)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX View Post
    yeah, I'll prob keep the SPT shifter, but are the front Kartboy bushings a replacement for the SPT shifter bushing? Cause I saw a pic of the SPT bushing on genuine Subaru parts, and it just seems to be another rubber bushing... Which kinda sucks. Was just wondering if it's worth ordering the front kartboy bushing. And what about the Kartboy pilot bushings? Are they worth it??

    Stu what's that 'Pro-Clip' you git in your mods?? And did you notice any decrease in performance after going to those heavier wheels?? I know it's off-topic, but just curious
    My bad, I didn't check this thread again lol. The pro-clip is a phone mount for my HTC Incredible, wanted something that was nice for holding the phone instead of having it lay around. I can't say I noticed any decrease, but it certainly holds the ground better. I'll be happy to get some other suspension upgrades to really set off the grip it has now.
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    Argh I wish I hadn't sold my Cobb STS from my old STI because I'd love to have it now. I guess I'll be buying one again! What's the consensus these days anyway on the best one? Price not being a concern.
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    Thanks Stu for the delayed input haha

    Thanks for the diagram Lokey, so I'm guessing that the pivot bushings are the only ones that can be installed from inside the car? All the rest are done from underneath??

    Thanks Tony for the confirmation, I think I'll just get all the bushings, I'll order the kartboy front bushing, the pivot bushings and the linkage ones, like I said already got the rear bushing ordered with my custom shift knon.

    After I get them all installed I'll then decide if I want to upgrade to the Cobb shifter i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by teflon_jones View Post
    Argh I wish I hadn't sold my Cobb STS from my old STI because I'd love to have it now. I guess I'll be buying one again! What's the consensus these days anyway on the best one? Price not being a concern.
    I still love my Mode Racing STS, which AFAIK is a rebadged Cobb. They don't sell it on RallySport now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage-wrx View Post
    Theses are essential TiC 5MT Lever Pivot Bushings - WIDE

    These are the shift linkage bushings.They will fit your 2011.I have them lying around the garage but have yet to install them TiC 06-08 Subaru Shift Linkage Bushings
    So Tony, it's definitely the WIDE ones and not the Narrow ones I need ccorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX View Post
    Thanks Stu for the delayed input haha

    Thanks for the diagram Lokey, so I'm guessing that the pivot bushings are the only ones that can be installed from inside the car? All the rest are done from underneath??

    Thanks Tony for the confirmation, I think I'll just get all the bushings, I'll order the kartboy front bushing, the pivot bushings and the linkage ones, like I said already got the rear bushing ordered with my custom shift knon.

    After I get them all installed I'll then decide if I want to upgrade to the Cobb shifter i guess
    That's correct. The others have to be done from underneath. Note: If you're going to be a "bushing head" and live under the car like some of us, I'd recommend getting some quality ramps (if you don't have them already). I use rhinoramps, some use raceramps.... Jacking the car up just gets to be a time-consuming hassle if you'll be getting under there often.

    Before you get all of those bushings, ask yourself this: Is my problem with the distance of the throw, height of the shifter, firmness/feel of the shifts, or some of each? I just don't want to see you get a bag of bushings, when the problem is the throw length or shifter height....know what I mean?

    Add: I can't see where changing the pivot bushings will firm things up too much. They are pretty solid as it is. You'll see if/when you remove them to put in the new shifter. Can someone else confirm/deny? Is it just me?
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    Thanks for the input Lokey, appreciate it man! My biggest issue is just the feel of the shifting, I'm perfectly content with the knob height, and like I said, maybe after I get all the bushings and drive for a bit, I might consider getting the Cobb to shorten the throws even more.

    In terms of the pivot bushings, are you saying that it could be a bad idea to install them?? I know most people only talk about the upside of using these harder urethane bushings, but are there any drawbacks at all??
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    No problem, man. In my opinion, the firmness achieved from the kartboy front and rear shifter stay bushings is more than enough, without making it feel too 'clunky." But, too each their own. I also feel that shortening my shifts made me much more accurate and quick with my shifts for spirited driving. Like I said, those two little sleeve-like bushings just don't seem like they are worth the time and effort...for me.

    Add: I'm with this guy (see review): http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Turn...-STI-2006-2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokey View Post
    Did you go with the full replacements or just the inserts (like lazy, old me)?
    I'm talking about these TiC Tranny Crossmember Bushings

    Next on the list are the rear diff inserts 2008 Impreza rear diff inserts

    Quote Originally Posted by lokey View Post
    Add: I can't see where changing the pivot bushings will firm things up too much. They are pretty solid as it is. You'll see if/when you remove them to put in the new shifter. Can someone else confirm/deny? Is it just me?
    It will firm things up too much if you over tighten the bolt.My stock bushings were chewed up when I took them off at around 3k miles.
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    Oh, right, those....man, I can't keep track of all the rubber that needs replacing under these cars. :-) I went with the Whiteline version, while I was there installing the STI trans mount.

    +1 The torque for that bolt is like 12 lbs, if I remember correctly.
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