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    Thumbs down !%&*#@%!

    ...and to think that I was saving my $ for a Cat Back exhaust... better start saving for my next clutch instead. Worse, if I decide to sell it now, CARFAX shows a new clutch at 23,495 miles. A buyer would have to assume it's been raced, abused or it has design issues--NO SALE. My Subie devotion just hit the ground.:

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    Quote Originally Posted by barefootdesigns View Post
    ...and to think that I was saving my $ for a Cat Back exhaust... better start saving for my next clutch instead. Worse, if I decide to sell it now, CARFAX shows a new clutch at 23,495 miles. A buyer would have to assume it's been raced, abused or it has design issues--NO SALE. My Subie devotion just hit the ground.:
    That shouldn't hurt it.

    You bring up a good point, however. The thing that irks me about SOA and dealerships in general is this poor marketing attitude towards existing customers. They promise you the moon when you buy the car, but if something goes wrong later on, they make you feel like a criminal to get it taken care of. Certainly not all places are like that, but there are enough of them to put people off from buying another car.

    The clutch and engine bearing failures should have been taken care of by SOA with an attitude towards keeping business and building repeat customers (which is, after all, a large portion of SOA's sales).
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    Quote Originally Posted by barefootdesigns View Post
    Pavia, you're right. It must be a bad batch of material and possibly a weak clutch design to boot. (The first clutch stink I experienced was also in reverse, like some other posted failures.) I just got my WRX back with the new clutch. It's very soft. I like something with a bit more resistance, even though I'm old, and 110#.

    I'M JUST SICK!
    The thrill I always felt when I stepped into the WRX is gone! Now I'm half afraid to drive the damn car because the clutch replacement is exactly the same model as the one I lost at 23K--according to the shop manager. He said on the phone that I toasted it but refused my request to come see the clutch, saying that the mechanics had gone home and he didn't know which one it was. (I thought: Really! How many would a shop replace in one day?)

    Half an hour later, in person, the story changed--the clutch had been packaged to return to the company for assessment and was under a time constraint, leaving me no option to have my favorite Subaru dealer in another town look it over. I handed him a summary of "bad clutch" remarks from WRX blogs to blunt his arrogance, and left.

    My 1997 Impreza Outback Sport (2.2L @137HP, M5 tranny) was trouble-free and fun. At this point I'd trade the WRX for it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately they had to cut me out of it after an Explorer hit me head on. Now this. I'm afraid my love affair with Subies is star crossed.
    Then get rid of it or stop complaining. We all know you'll just keep the car and pretend you don't have fun in it. I'm sure you drive like a saint too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.0Rs View Post
    Then get rid of it or stop complaining. We all know you'll just keep the car and pretend you don't have fun in it. I'm sure you drive like a saint too.
    you ****ing troll.. go back to nasioc where you belong.

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    Easy folks...

    Both parties have points. I understand why someone can be upset with having problems with a new car. I also understand that it's a fun car that most don't have issues with.
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    Well, I have a sneaky feeling that this could be settled, to at least the satisfaction of reasonable people, if we could correlate the build dates on all these very early failures. I'm flat out right now so I don't have time to research it. I was hoping that the build date might be on the old clutch that they wouldn't let me see. (They had the build date on virtually every piece of my '66 pony car. We figured out that it was built, shipped, prepped and bought off the dealers lot in Tampa within a ten day period!!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.0Rs View Post
    Then get rid of it or stop complaining. We all know you'll just keep the car and pretend you don't have fun in it. I'm sure you drive like a saint too.
    So how are we supposed to drive the car? I bought a WRX, not a Camry or a Buick.

    I'm at 9900 miles and mine is just about done. Same thing, started slipping in reverse and now it's slipping abouve 3000 rpm. No clutch drops, no throttle between gears and it still failed.

    I've owned two 323 GTX's, one with as much power as this car, a Celica All-Trac and an Audi S4 and I've never had a clutch problem like this. Not to mention the many other manual transmission cars I've owned.

    I'm sure that there are some cases of abuse, but in my opinion reading this thread and others on other forums it sure seems likely that there is an actual issue with the clutch itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drse View Post
    So how are we supposed to drive the car? I bought a WRX, not a Camry or a Buick.

    I'm at 9900 miles and mine is just about done. Same thing, started slipping in reverse and now it's slipping abouve 3000 rpm. No clutch drops, no throttle between gears and it still failed.

    I've owned two 323 GTX's, one with as much power as this car, a Celica All-Trac and an Audi S4 and I've never had a clutch problem like this. Not to mention the many other manual transmission cars I've owned.

    I'm sure that there are some cases of abuse, but in my opinion reading this thread and others on other forums it sure seems likely that there is an actual issue with the clutch itself.
    Wow! Nice list of cars. Jealous.

    FWIW, I agree w/ you. I got 140k out of the stock clutch on my '02 and I was not nice to it. Good luck and welcome to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barefootdesigns View Post
    ...and to think that I was saving my $ for a Cat Back exhaust... better start saving for my next clutch instead. Worse, if I decide to sell it now, CARFAX shows a new clutch at 23,495 miles. A buyer would have to assume it's been raced, abused or it has design issues--NO SALE. My Subie devotion just hit the ground.:
    Why do you think Carfax is going to show anything about the clutch being replaced?

    Because it won't.....
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    Carfax

    Thought the whole service history was available through Carfax--which would reveal the clutch problem.

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    09 wrx clutch stories

    got my '09 WRX with 14K miles on it two months ago, pretty nice whip for the price tag and up until about two weeks ago didnt have any issues other than some heavy resistance with the clutch, then one morning (i spend 95% of my time commuting to work not rallying and drag racing) when i shifted into first it only partially engaged and was a little sluggish off the line, didnt think anything really of it and didnt have any issues until today...
    driving up to the tunnel on i-70 in stop and go traffic with heavy snow/ice and i'm 99% sure the clutch went out, almost caused a massive accident in bumper to bumper traffic!!! made it home ok but the clutch is definitely burning up and she's starting to stutter a lot between 1k and 3k rpms in 1st gear... sigh... taking it to the dealer tomorrow and from everything i just read in this forum most likely going to get either an earful from them on how i don't know how to drive (from what i can tell unless i am an amateur race driver or work for Subaru i clearly don't know what i'm doing) or a wonderfully expensive x-mas present for my self. All warranty challenges aside and should the possibility of a manufacturing defect on the clutch end up not being all that legitimate... does anyone know if Subaru offers any kind of AWD specific performance driving class so that all us newbies can keep the factory clutch healthy for more than 75-100K? I'd rather spend $100 bucks and a saturday afternoon in adult drivers ed for WRX owners than $1,000 every 10-20K miles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathro View Post
    got my '09 WRX with 14K miles on it two months ago, pretty nice whip for the price tag and up until about two weeks ago didnt have any issues other than some heavy resistance with the clutch, then one morning (i spend 95% of my time commuting to work not rallying and drag racing) when i shifted into first it only partially engaged and was a little sluggish off the line, didnt think anything really of it and didnt have any issues until today...
    driving up to the tunnel on i-70 in stop and go traffic with heavy snow/ice and i'm 99% sure the clutch went out, almost caused a massive accident in bumper to bumper traffic!!! made it home ok but the clutch is definitely burning up and she's starting to stutter a lot between 1k and 3k rpms in 1st gear... sigh... taking it to the dealer tomorrow and from everything i just read in this forum most likely going to get either an earful from them on how i don't know how to drive (from what i can tell unless i am an amateur race driver or work for Subaru i clearly don't know what i'm doing) or a wonderfully expensive x-mas present for my self. All warranty challenges aside and should the possibility of a manufacturing defect on the clutch end up not being all that legitimate... does anyone know if Subaru offers any kind of AWD specific performance driving class so that all us newbies can keep the factory clutch healthy for more than 75-100K? I'd rather spend $100 bucks and a saturday afternoon in adult drivers ed for WRX owners than $1,000 every 10-20K miles...

    thx
    shortline subaru in aurora CO = worst customer service ever... saving some money for one of these, Cygnus Performance | Late Model Import Parts STi, WRX, Evo - ACT Heavy Duty 4-Puck Clutch Kit 2006-2009 WRX Part # SB5-HDG4 , and will be going to a transmission specialist next year, thanks for absolutely nothing subaru customer service....

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    so even if you buy the Gold Plan to extend your warranty, Subaru can still claim abuse and not honor the warranty or does the Gold Plan cover this scenario (as a wear item) as long as you pay the deductible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jathro View Post
    shortline subaru in aurora CO = worst customer service ever... saving some money for one of these, Cygnus Performance | Late Model Import Parts STi, WRX, Evo - ACT Heavy Duty 4-Puck Clutch Kit 2006-2009 WRX Part # SB5-HDG4 , and will be going to a transmission specialist next year, thanks for absolutely nothing subaru customer service....
    Don't get a 4 puck clutch.

    I drag race, and have 90whp more than you do stock... and I don't have one of those. If you're going to daily drive your car you need a full face organic disk. No pucked discs.

    this is what I got
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho View Post
    so even if you buy the Gold Plan to extend your warranty, Subaru can still claim abuse and not honor the warranty or does the Gold Plan cover this scenario (as a wear item) as long as you pay the deductible?
    i didn't even get that far with them... the service manager said "why would we waste our time to pull your clutch out and look at any damage when its not covered under your warranty?" hmmmm... maybe because its your job! im writing an email and sending a letter to SOA, maybe it was my fault for driving three hours up a hill in bumper to bumper traffic and not using the hand break, maybe its a manufacturing defect i dont know, either way the dealership's customer service has a lot of ground to make up with a lot of customers

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