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This is a discussion on Alignment basics within the Suspension & Wheels forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX often you don't realize that the struts are giving up until you replace them ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post

    often you don't realize that the struts are giving up until you replace them
    Ding mine were horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kprugbyplaya View Post
    Last question. I promise! Haha

    Do I need to get camber bolts if I am adjusting to -1 or even -1.1? Because I think the stock ones go up to that point. I mean if the aftermarket bolts are drastically better and efficient, then I will gladly purchase them, but I don't want to buy it if not needed. Thanks for the help again.
    Not for the front.
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    yup- not for the front, the 11+'s get good camber numbers w/o an additional camber bolt

    never liked camber bolts as they were significantly smaller than the stock bolts (it's the only way they can squeeze and eccentric bolt into a regular hole)
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    Does this apply to 2011+ STI's as well? I'm looking for something more aggressive than last time, I was thinking around -1.5 since I plan to AutoX again this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sky WRX View Post
    most likely driving, not uncommon at all- especially autoxing

    by adding more static neg camber you'll spread that wear a little more across the entire tire, but even w/ aggressive camber numbers the outer edges still go first autoxing
    Would it be worth my while to have the tires remounted so the worn part was on the inside? Can I save these tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A265 View Post
    Does this apply to 2011+ STI's as well? I'm looking for something more aggressive than last time, I was thinking around -1.5 since I plan to AutoX again this year.
    I have a set of camber bolts added to my front struts. With RCE Blacks (stock ride height-ish) I got around -2.5 degrees of front camber. I'd highly recommend as much front camber as you can get evenly across both fronts. I've started with -1 and bumped it up a bit each alignment. I'm still stuck on the fact the newer cars really need as much camber as possible, at least until you get to very high spring rates.

    Also, the only time I've noticed poor tire wear has been from when I had some "foul toe" at play. I knew I should have gotten it aligned a bit sooner .

    The effects of any toe on the alignment are drastic compared to even large amounts of camber. I'll have to take a picture sometime. My poor RE-11s have had a rough life.
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    I actually just got my alignment done to my 2011 WRX and one side has a little more camber than the other.

    Front Left: -1
    Front Right: -1.2
    Toe: 0 all around

    Rear Left: -1.6
    Rear Right:-1.9
    Toe: 0 all around

    Is this reasonable? Suspension noob here lol. Plus I'm running the gtworx setup with yellow springs. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy21785 View Post
    I actually just got my alignment done to my 2011 WRX and one side has a little more camber than the other.

    Front Left: -1
    Front Right: -1.2
    Toe: 0 all around

    Rear Left: -1.6
    Rear Right:-1.9
    Toe: 0 all around

    Is this reasonable? Suspension noob here lol. Plus I'm running the gtworx setup with yellow springs. Thanks!
    You aren't running a rear camber bolt?

    The rear on the older chassis should be around -1.3.

    Big box alignement stores dial in more negative camber on the pass side to account for road crown. I hate it, and set mine at the same as the driver.
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    a couple of tenths cross up front is fine (I prefer even steven, but you'll be fine); the rear is what you get- no adjustment there
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    I'm not running a rear camber bolt but I'm debating it now. I guess I'll live with the current alignment for now and when I decide to get camber bolts for the rear I'll ask them to adjust the fronts to be the same. Sounds reasonale I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy21785 View Post
    I'm not running a rear camber bolt but I'm debating it now. I guess I'll live with the current alignment for now and when I decide to get camber bolts for the rear I'll ask them to adjust the fronts to be the same. Sounds reasonale I guess?
    Watch rear tire wear on the inner edge. The fronts will be fine.
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    Funny thing is when they checked my tires they said they were doing well. No excessive wear or anything and they still got life on them. These were the stock tires that came with my car too. (I have about 45k on them surprisingly, I do switch out the stock tires when winter comes) I was plenty surprised. Before the alignment my specs were.

    Front L/R: -1.1 / -1.5
    Rear L/R: -1.7 / -2.1

    Maybe the new alignment will make my tires last even longer lol.

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    My rear tires are at -1.3 and contribute 0 adverse tire wear.
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    Thats awesome! Maybe I will look into camber bolts

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