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    Anybody running 225/45/R17 on stock suspension that doesn't rub? I know 215/45/17 works with no problem, but only some 225/45/17 tire combos will work.

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    I have stock struts with Prodrive springs and I've had no problems with:

    17" Rota (Attacks and Tarmacs) with 225/45/17 S-03s and Falken Azenis.

    Check your rear alignment if you have rubbing with 225 width tires. My stock alignment in the rear was at 0 camber and I had minimal rubbing which was cured by taking off the black weatherstripping. With some negative camber you should have no problems.

    My favorite set of wheels/tires for handling performance and suspension compliance are the UK 17s with Potenza S-02. These wheels are totally worth it and no worries about rubbing of course in the 215 size.
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    What about the Prodrive GC07 because they are +51 or 52, but they are 8" wide. Does anybody know if they rub at all? For that wide of a wheel, could you fit a 235 tire?

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    Ok. I've read all the responses and I'm still confused on what tires/wheels to get. After all I've read it sounds like tires are the single best change one can make to improve the handling of the WRX wagon. Mine is stock and I don't envision doing any other suspension mod's. I've been trying to learn what's the best tire/wheel combo. Most who have responded to this thread have made suspension mods also and thus the feedback does not necessarily apply to the stock wagon. I have several direct questions I would like to ask those in the know. 1.) can I just change the rubber, or do I need to change to the 17" wheels also to improve the handling? 2.) If I change the wheels to 17", should I go with the 7" width or the 7.5" width? 3.) What tire profile should I get? Tire rack recommends 225/45 but the STI upgrade is 215/45. 4.) A lot of people talk highly of Rota, but then there is some info on this site that say's they may be unsafe. 5.) What's a good street performance tire that's also a good value? I'm so confused. I can be e-mailed directly at pen@surfbest.com

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    Sure you can stick with the OEM 16" wheels! There's pros and cons each way. The OEM 16" wheels are very light; lighter than many aftermarket 17" wheels. Get a good set of tires and there will be a world of improvement. Going from 205-55-16 to 215-55-16 or 225-50-16 will give you almost the same outside diameter, so your speedo/odo will read just about correctly. If you ever plan to autocross, you can either got the STX route or D-Stock. In DS, the stock size wheels a mandatory.

    If you want to improve the suspension a little without spending much, look for a used sedan rear sway bar. They are slightly larger, and improve the understeer of the wagon. You can get them new for about $85, or used from a sedan upgrading to adjustable for under $50! Only negative here, is you can't touch the rear sway bar in D-Stock, if you go that way.

    That's my plan. I'm getting a spare set of OEM 16" wheels and the Yokohama ES100 tires from TireRack. Just wish the Yokos came in 215 width. I keep getting yes/no answers for the 225s on the stock wheels. TireRack's Luke, a well respected expert around here, says 225 is too wide. Yet others have done so without tire roll or rubbing. I'll probably stick with the 205s...

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    smorris,

    I asked Luke that exact question in this thread and his answer was that 225 50 16 was fine on the wagon.

    Tires (again)

    I am planning on going that way with the Yokos when the snow is gone.

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    Sumitomo 225/50 16 HTR+

    I'm thinking of going with Sumitomo 225/50 16 HTR+ tires on my stock wheels. Can anyone running this combination let me know how it has worked out for them. Does it track well, is it responsive/nimble, does it "take a set" when changing directions, and how big of an improvement are they over the RE92s.

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    225/45 17 GS-D3s on Rota Tarmacs!

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    I'm running that combo on my wagon. I've not autocrossed or anything on them, but compared to the RE92's - they are a DEFINITE improvement while cornering. Much less sliding around. I haven't noticed any tracking issues with it. I haven't noticed any extra steering effort over the thinner stock RE92's, but then again, I don't corner my wagon very hard - it's been all street driving for me.

    I drive in a lot of snow -- the HTR+'s do wonderfully in the stuff.
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    Originally posted by aussieinstlouis
    smorris,

    I asked Luke that exact question in this thread and his answer was that 225 50 16 was fine on the wagon.

    Tires (again)

    I am planning on going that way with the Yokos when the snow is gone.
    BINGO! We're goin' with Yokohama ES100 225 50 16's on spare EOM 6.5 X 16" wheels then! Price delivered as of last October when I asked was $690 mounted, balanced, and shipped. Probably a bit more now.

    Thanks for the link! I've got to build a tire rack in the garage! Spares for the WRX and spares for the MGA; all from The Tire Rack.
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    I'll try this in this thread before I start my own...

    I've been looking at pics of wheels with 215/45/17 tires mounted on them. On 7.5" width rims, they look like they're stretched on...the wheels are obviously wider then the tire.. I don't like that look... I'm thinking a 7" wheel would be better... now the $25,000 question... OK.. maybe it's really only worth $1.38.. but still...

    What offset for the 7" wheels on a wagon? Assuming the same 215/45/17 tire size.

    If +48 works for 7.5" rims, then you should be able to go as low as +42 on a 7" wheel right? Even at +45, it would open up my choices of wheels a lot. I'm figuring that a quarter inch (half the difference in width) is about 6mm, so it should work.

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    Re: I'll try this in this thread before I start my own...

    Originally posted by Racenut3.0
    What offset for the 7" wheels on a wagon? Assuming the same 215/45/17 tire size.

    If +48 works for 7.5" rims, then you should be able to go as low as +42 on a 7" wheel right? Even at +45, it would open up my choices of wheels a lot. I'm figuring that a quarter inch (half the difference in width) is about 6mm, so it should work.
    Aren't the stock UK wheels something like +47? They are 7" wide, so just look for the specs on UK 17's.

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    Aren't the stock UK wheels something like +47? They are 7" wide, so just look for the specs on UK 17's.
    offset is +53
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    Anyone running a strong 16"x7" wheel with 225's on 'em? I'm thinking of sticking with the 16's after a lot of back and forth over the 17's.......
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    I'm of the opinion you could put just about any tire that'll fit on a 16" wheel on this car and hve no problem. Of course this doesn't answer your qyestion, but the guys at tirerack will probably be able to help you.

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    Hey MisterX. Nice chocolate chips!!!!

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