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    Since the topic of winter tires has been all so popular

    Just thought I'd share a post i came across trolling instagram while on the can earlier today. Remember folks, all it takes is one little slip. If you don't have the $ to drop on a dedicated set of winters keep it parked for your own safety, and others around you. Luckily, this guy seemed to have gotten out with minor injuries.

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    To be completely honest, I think if you are driving on summer tires in a cold climate and something like this happens, insurance shouldn't pay... This is 100% the drivers fault and everyone else shouldn't have to pick up the slack... Yes I am a little bitter my premiums in NY went up $140 this six months.... No speeding tickets etc... I hate stupid people!

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    Glad he is OK. I really think that manufacturers that sell cars in northern climates should at least offer an all season tire option. My summer tires are sitting for 5 months of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13WRXlimited View Post
    To be completely honest, I think if you are driving on summer tires in a cold climate and something like this happens, insurance shouldn't pay... This is 100% the drivers fault and everyone else shouldn't have to pick up the slack... Yes I am a little bitter my premiums in NY went up $140 this six months.... No speeding tickets etc... I hate stupid people!
    I'm in NY, and my rates went down.. Time to shop around, homey!

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    Well, somebody has to pay for the rates that go down...
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    I blame Subaru partially for this. When was the last time anyone heard how a dealer explained to a buyer that summer tires are useless in the winter. Most people are not very car literate. Not very many go on forums(the vast majority don't) & read about this stuff. And even fewer RTFM.
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    The salesman told me about the tires upon delivery.. Ya know.. After the sale was complete.
    What does worry me, is that over the last few weeks in the new member introduction section there have been several newbs posting "just picked up my wrx today" pics in snow. Subaru, or any manufacturer for that matter, should never even deliver cars with summers in the snow, unless the customer picks it up on a flatbed.

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    Just how much "hand-holding" do we need. The WRX is basically a souped up version of the Impreza. That was the original idea, as in "werks". Way back then we had our (European) Ford Escort's and modded the living daylights out of them. The WRX came COMPLETE with not much else to do to it. So Subaru sells it in the summer configuration and that's all they do. Big deal, just put the right tires on when needed. This car has wayyy toooo much go to just run the tires as is in the snow. Also, it's by no means a cheap car, it's just economical in the sense that you don't throw out everything just to build a capable car. If you go WRX then you should be aware that additional cost follows: Tactrix adapter, tools, maintenance, any number of things you may want. And I can't imagine anyone expecting a Mustang to do well on summer tires either...
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    I will probably get bashed for this but oh well I'm not new to the forum game so no butt hurt will be had. Perhaps I misunderstand the whole thing about snow tires. I get their function and clearly are better than summer tires. But what I don't understand is why they are touted as almost being a necessary thing to do otherwise you'll crash. Granted I don't see much snow but I drove my v8 mustang for 6 years and never had problems in the snow. And yes I've driven the wrx in snow and ice and it did just fine. I find it hard to believe that snow tires are a cure all when most accidents due to snow could be cured by safer driving and awareness. Just a thought

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    Well, I did get caught in the first snow this season with summer tires. It was a beach, going up-hill slightly sideways with the traction control constantly making adjustments. Stopping is that much worse... That evening I put the winters on, after that no issues at all. Sure I could still go too fast around a corner or make the car ski by applying too much gas or brake - but it tracks WAYYY better than on the summers. And that's where the crux lies: Stopping downhill ... just as one example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage-wrx View Post
    I blame Subaru partially for this. When was the last time anyone heard how a dealer explained to a buyer that summer tires are useless in the winter. Most people are not very car literate. Not very many go on forums(the vast majority don't) & read about this stuff. And even fewer RTFM.
    They put the summers on to pad the numbers. That's how the WRXs 0-60 time, the slalom, and skidpad have all improved so much. People that are buying the WRX are buying a sports car/sports sedan. They're getting sports car tires on it. If you buy a corvette, or even an STI you wouldn't expect all seasons....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXNasty View Post
    I will probably get bashed for this but oh well I'm not new to the forum game so no butt hurt will be had. Perhaps I misunderstand the whole thing about snow tires. I get their function and clearly are better than summer tires. But what I don't understand is why they are touted as almost being a necessary thing to do otherwise you'll crash. Granted I don't see much snow but I drove my v8 mustang for 6 years and never had problems in the snow. And yes I've driven the wrx in snow and ice and it did just fine. I find it hard to believe that snow tires are a cure all when most accidents due to snow could be cured by safer driving and awareness. Just a thought
    I don't think anyone said it's a cure-all.. its just called being proactive. I think you may have to do some research into how and why summers and winters work. Even just watch that video someone posted in another winter tire thread with the summer/all-season/winter side by side on an ice rink. And saying " most accidents due to snow could be cured by safer driving and awareness " wouldn't that apply to almost all accidents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichD514 View Post
    I don't think anyone said it's a cure-all.. its just called being proactive. I think you may have to do some research into how and why summers and winters work. Even just watch that video someone posted in another winter tire thread with the summer/all-season/winter side by side on an ice rink. And saying " most accidents due to snow could be cured by safer driving and awareness " wouldn't that apply to almost all accidents?
    Yes it would. And I'm not opposed to learning. I just had a thought and wanted to know what others thought. Either way we don't get enough snow or ice or cold weather for that matter for me to feel I need to invest in winter tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXNasty View Post
    I will probably get bashed for this but oh well I'm not new to the forum game so no butt hurt will be had. Perhaps I misunderstand the whole thing about snow tires. I get their function and clearly are better than summer tires. But what I don't understand is why they are touted as almost being a necessary thing to do otherwise you'll crash. Granted I don't see much snow but I drove my v8 mustang for 6 years and never had problems in the snow. And yes I've driven the wrx in snow and ice and it did just fine. I find it hard to believe that snow tires are a cure all when most accidents due to snow could be cured by safer driving and awareness. Just a thought
    Spoken like someone who has never owned winters

    Get some LM-60's on there, and see if you're singing the same tune. I would have agreed with you 100% before I tried winters. Now, I'm aching for them on my new Jeep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    Spoken like someone who has never owned winters

    Get some LM-60's on there, and see if you're singing the same tune. I would have agreed with you 100% before I tried winters. Now, I'm aching for them on my new Jeep
    I'm not saying that they won't make a difference. I accept that they do. But it just seemed like some people were making it seem like you need winters even in am area not seeing much snow. I don't see the justification for me personally. It's almost one of those topics that can be discussed forever, like what oil is best haha

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