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    Strut and spring combo

    So now that I have the money I am going to replace my struts and springs. I am not looking to lower my car but just make the handling a little bit tighter. For struts I have been reading that the KYB GR2's are supposed to be great, so I am looking into those, however I can only seem to find the Excel-G for 04 wrx. Is there a difference between the GR2's and Excel G's? Right now I found the Excel G for $356 for all four with free shipping which seem sot be the best deal so far. Please feel free to throw a better deal my way... Here is the link for the KYB's

    Bilstein - KYB - Rancho - Monroe - Edelbrock Automotive Truck Shocks and Struts - Shockwarehouse.com

    As for springs I was considering doing STi springs, but I have read quite a bit about Eibach springs on here. I found the Eibach springs for $220 which is around $30 less than what I found for the STi springs. Here is the link for the Eibach:

    Eibach Pro-Kit Spring Set

    Does this seem like a decent setup? My budget is around $700, and as I said I am not looking to lower my car. Oh yeah, for mounts I was going to use the KYB that is in the link I posted as well. Let me know what you think

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    Both GR2s and Excel-Gs are just stock replacements. They aren't designed to improve dampening.. that said, when deconstructed GR2s are better made than Excel-Gs, despite what KYB may tell you. (I think they may be trying to phase out the GR2).


    I don't know the spring rates for STi springs off the top of my head, but the Eibach Pro Kit springs are progressive and have very soft springs rates. Which is good for ride comfort, but does little to improve handling. They are more for the looks of lowering while retaining stockish handling and ride characteristics.


    I don't know about good struts AND springs for $700.. a set of struts that will handle upgraded springs well will probably cost around $700 alone. If you're really wanting to improve handling then I would look for D-Specs and RCE Black "regular guy" springs. Problem is, the D-Specs will run you about $800.

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    Why dont you just get F/R Sways and Endlinks and then upgrade from there?

    You will feel a pretty big difference after the swap and then later on you can just get the struts and springs

    For struts/springs, from my reading and from what people talk about in here, I would recommend Koni yellow and RCE( black for less drop and yellow for more drop)

    If you want dont want much of a drop and still keep the stiffness go with black...if you want the drop and still keep the stiffness go rce yellow

    Here is a link that describes the yellow and the black (regular guy)

    RCE SPRINGS - Springs & Shocks

    Personally, I want to do struts and spring but they are mad expensive, so im going to start out with sways and endlinks

    It will get you started esp with your budget

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    Well the struts on my car are pretty worn. So unfortunately I am very overdue for replacement. I use my wrx as my DD, I don't take it racing or anything. Just the occasional cruise on a nice day. I WISH I could get koni's or RCE's , I would love to put them on my car. Maybe if I get a sudden influx on money then they are as good as mine! But...I don't think that is going to happen

    Mainframe: You said that the KYB's are just stock replacement, and Eibach's do not do better for handling, but do you think they will be a decline in handling from the stock suspension, or just the same? I was also checking out Tein S-techs, which are a little more than I would like to spend right now, but definitely entertaining the idea. Do you have any experience or knowledge on these springs?

    kpurgbyplaya: Definitely good suggestions man. Those were things I wanted to do to my suspensions a few years ago, and still plan on doing, but once I replace the struts...Do you have sway bars and endlinks on your suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kord9 View Post
    I was also checking out Tein S-techs..


    these are not the springs you want..




    The Eibachs on GR2s I would expect to be an improvement over stock, more so seeing that your struts are worn. I don't know how long those struts would hold up, but probably a decent amount of time on those springs.

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    [QUOTE=MainFrame;2990816]these are not the springs you want..


    Are they not any good? A buddy recommended them so I thought I would check out pricing and what not, but I have not looked into them much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kord9
    Are they not any good? A buddy recommended them so I thought I would check out pricing and what not, but I have not looked into them much.
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    EJ257, coincidentally I was just reading your thread about "The Importance of the Uppipe mod"! Thanks a lot man.

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    Kord, not yet cuz I just got the car in November and it's still kinda new. (2011 with 31k). I'm low in money but in terms of handling, sways and end links will be my first purchase.

    There's always people selling their struts on forums that you can pick up unless you want brand new.

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    Oh well congrats on the new rex man! I am sure it is treating you well Unfortunately, like most smart purchases, I have to put it on the ol' credit card...So new seems to be the only option

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    Quote Originally Posted by kord9 View Post
    Well the struts on my car are pretty worn. So unfortunately I am very overdue for replacement. I use my wrx as my DD, I don't take it racing or anything. Just the occasional cruise on a nice day. I WISH I could get koni's or RCE's , I would love to put them on my car. Maybe if I get a sudden influx on money then they are as good as mine! But...I don't think that is going to happen
    Help your budget by looking for better used springs (and sways). You may be able to get better struts, sways, endlinks and still stay close to budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmiller2002 View Post
    Help your budget by looking for better used springs (and sways). You may be able to get better struts, sways, endlinks and still stay close to budget.
    I actually do not have the money to purchase the struts, I have to charge it on the credit card....Unless you have know of any places I could purchase used struts with a credit card that would be totally awesome!

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    I wouldn't buy used struts, they are a wear item. Struts are really only good for about 60k miles, less if they have been riding on aftermarket springs.

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    as stated above the KYB Gr-2s are stock replacements. when running a lowering spring setup the strut will lose some life out of it. Im riding on KYB Gr-2s and Epic springs. The springs were designed off of stock struts but of course since they are a lowering spring they will cause faster wear than a stock spring. Its a nice setup for a stock like ride but then a little drop -1.3~ and will be nice for around corners. Then paired with a sway setup, im content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kord9 View Post
    I actually do not have the money to purchase the struts, I have to charge it on the credit card....Unless you have know of any places I could purchase used struts with a credit card that would be totally awesome!
    I didn't say buy used struts, I said buy used springs and sways.

    So, that said, what does this mean in the original post "So now that I have the money I am going to replace my struts and springs."?

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