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This is a discussion on Replacement strut advise... within the Suspension & Wheels forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by Obeisance Just a slight interjection here since I will eventually want to upgrade my springs/struts from the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obeisance View Post
    Just a slight interjection here since I will eventually want to upgrade my springs/struts from the stock ones that I currently have. You have been running the STI takeoff springs for quite a while but want to change them... are they not stiff or low enough for you? I'm interested in why you want to change because it may affect my future interest in the STI takeoff springs.

    Thanks.
    I was just interested in changing them because they have about 100k miles on them now. Springs don't last forever, they have a definitive life cycle. The height difference from stock on the STi take offs for my 2006 was about .5". I don't want too low, been there done that. I'm looking for about 1" lower than stock and slightly stiffer than the STI springs. The STi springs are nice but there is still a little more roll than I like.
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    RCE Blacks or Swift springs.
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    Yup - blacks should be right in that range. I don't know about Swifts personally as far as height, but that also sounds like a good option if you don't want the stiffness of the blacks.

    RCE lists their drop for those relative to the STi
    - 15 mm front
    - 10 mm rear

    If you want to see how an '03 wagon sits on them I have a pic of mine.
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    Replacement strut advise...

    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    Yup - blacks should be right in that range. I don't know about Swifts personally as far as height, but that also sounds like a good option if you don't want the stiffness of the blacks.

    RCE lists their drop for those relative to the STi
    - 15 mm front
    - 10 mm rear

    If you want to see how an '03 wagon sits on them I have a pic of mine.
    Yeah pics would be awesome. What struts you runnin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06wrx4me View Post
    Yeah pics would be awesome. What struts you runnin?
    Koni Yellows per JR & BigSky's recommendations - they have been fantastic.


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    Replacement strut advise...

    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    Koni Yellows per JR & BigSky's recommendations - they have been fantastic.


    Looks great! I have owned Koni Yellows before, loved them. Are yours Koni inserts or full struts ?
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    Hummm....

    Well I'm in a quandry of sorts.

    I can buy a set of GR2 struts to replace my blown stock ones for $316 shipped.

    RCE blacks are $336 shipped.

    I called RCE and the guy on the other end of the line said that the RCE blacks will work with the GR2's.

    Which would be sweet to replace the whole setup for $650. +$ for any worn bushings or top hats I haven't already replaced.

    I called KYB and spoke to tech support. The guy on the other end of the line said not to go more than 15% over stock spring rates.

    But we know the WRX stuts are not well matched to the stock springs, if anything they are a little stiff.

    But for fun, I have the USDM Sti springs on my car whose rates are 224/195. The RCE's are 285/269.


    Assuming my USDM STi's are appropriately matched, this would be the max value the GR2's could hang with.

    1.15*224=257.6 1.15*195=224.25

    Meaning I could be potentially 10% under valved with the GR2's.

    I'd love to step up to the Turnin Concepts Tokico Dspec package, but $12XX for the complete package with top hats and spacers is a little rich for me right now (I haven't done my taxes and I am scared).

    I don't like the Koni yellow inserts. Seems lazy to me they never made a direct replacement. Don't get me wrong Koni yellows are a great strut, but I'd rather not cut my OE ones in case I go back to stock to sell. I know Bigsky worked with koni to try and get them to make a drop in unit, but they never did.

    I tried to get KYB to give me technical data on strut force so I could do some more in depth than back of the envelope arithmetic, but the guy in the tech dept didn't have any.

    There are reviews saying the GR2-RCE black setup rides great, and threads where people say they won't be matched right.

    Meh. Anyone have this setup? You guys running Koni's where in the adjustment range are your knoi's set?

    Maybe I'll call RCE back later and talk to them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06wrx4me
    I don't like the Koni yellow inserts. Seems lazy to me they never made a direct replacement. Don't get me wrong Koni yellows are a great strut, but I'd rather not cut my OE ones in case I go back to stock to sell.
    You should be able to pick up a used set of struts for under $100 (wouldn't surprise me if you could get them for <$50 if they're already blown).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    You should be able to pick up a used set of struts for under $100 (wouldn't surprise me if you could get them for <$50 if they're already blown).
    True. But the best Price I have seen on Koni's is $775 shipped for 4. The Tokico D-spec which everyone seems to rave about, are available with remote adjusters, and are a direct replacement, for $850. If I go the adjustable route I think I'll go that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    Koni Yellows per JR & BigSky's recommendations - they have been fantastic.


    Wow your car looks amazing.

    Sorry to thread jack, but it's the first time I see your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06wrx4me View Post
    Looks great! I have owned Koni Yellows before, loved them. Are yours Koni inserts or full struts ?
    Inserts are the only way to go on a wagon otherwise you lose camber.
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    Oh man...the perfect wagon. I swear John's wagon should be labled as NSFW...pure car pr0n. Fapping all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    ^Thanks!



    Inserts are the only way to go on a wagon otherwise you lose camber.
    Ahh. I'm in a sedan.
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    For sake of discussion, does anyone have input/experience on the Megan Racing Coilovers? They seem to get good reviews and are within the price range. The "Street" versions have much stiffer spring rates than the RCE's, but the Coilovers are Linear rate where the RCE's are progressive, IIRC so I'm not sure if the rates directly compare.
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    Pass on the Megan's

    I agree for $75 extra I'd get the non-inserts. I'd get the Konis though if they are a bit less. You probably aren't going to want to sell the car with the blown stock ones back on it, and many people will appreciate if not pay extra for good suspension mods. The install will be cake (for you) and the only thing that can really go wrong is to lose the bolt that holds them down (won't happen if you use a little tread locker) and that can only cause a little noise until you sort it out.

    You can do better on the Koni $.

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