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This is a discussion on '11 WRX coilovers vs springs within the Suspension & Wheels forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Background: I have a 2011 WRX hatchback, previously owned 2 Evo 8's with springs/sways vs JIC coilovers. I went stage ...

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    '11 WRX coilovers vs springs

    Background: I have a 2011 WRX hatchback, previously owned 2 Evo 8's with springs/sways vs JIC coilovers.

    I went stage 2 with the WRX and have been enjoying the car quite a bit but am bothered by (1) the wheel gap and (2) the floaty-ness of the car when turning or hitting bumps. It just doesn't feel right...under-dampened?

    I find the stock suspension to not feel right no matter what. It's too soft for any spirited driving, on the highway it just floats but still jars on bad bumps, and generally feels "off" during street driving. So it never feels right.

    I'm looking at primarily H&R Coilovers for $1200 since springs alone (Swift or Epic) are $300 and only seem to strain the stock struts if you drop the car more than 3/4". I could probably stomach springs + sways just fine but the H&R's contain Bilstein struts which are quality and I have read nothing but great things about the H&R setup for both the WRX and STI.

    Was just wondering what the ClubWRX community has to say about this. I just want a stock-ish-but-more-solid setup and was wondering what would be a better option:

    1 - H&R Coilovers
    2 - front and rear swaybars
    3 - Epic/Swift springs
    4 - swaybars + springs
    5 - springs + struts (which gets confusing for me)

    Any input or advice would be appreciated. I'm leaning towards #1 to just address dampening and get a progressive spring rate. I think that may solve most of what I'm after but could use advice. Getting to drop the car 1" is a bonus.
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    Looking for the same advice.

    The WRX is a daily driver so I still want it to be relatively comfortable, but I need to firm things up and definitely get rid of the 'floatiness'. I would also like to lower the car.

    I have had bad experiences when just installing lowering springs, aesthetics may be great but ride quality deteriorates significantly. Coil overs seem the way to go for me, even if I don't plan on tracking the car (have a dedicated track machine) -- cost is really secondary, ride quality is most important. I've been thinking about BC's or KW's??

    So the question -- which ones and what spring rates do the experts recommend for a DD?.

    Any advice/input would be appreciated. TIA

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    Coilovers are for racing. Most have spring rates into the 330-680lbs. Like BC you can pick your rate. yes you can use them for DD but they do need rebuilt more often and Ive only heard BC doing rebuilds for cheap ($100 each). They get beat up more because there more exposed with their coils so if you drive in bad weather don't expect and easy time if you need to adjust them down the road.

    A good spring/shock setup works great! However you need good parts. Lowering springs do nothing in my book nor do progressive springs although they make a pretty good ride I hear (epic) but I personally wouldnt track them. Honestly the best setup IMO is the Koni adjustable shocks and the RCE yellow springs with an almost inch drop and 330lbs rate. Their made by people who actually spring dyno test them, made for DD with track use, just a really good Co. Shox.com has a sale on konis too, mine were $560 shipped. Normally $650+!

    For a DD you can't beat a spring/shock! And the konis can be turned soft like stock or hard so your teeth fall out!
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    I'd get upgraded sway bars to start (with endlinks), then move on to a spring/strut combo. That way you can get a feel for how much of a difference the sways make before doing the springs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teflon_jones View Post
    I'd get upgraded sway bars to start (with endlinks), then move on to a spring/strut combo. That way you can get a feel for how much of a difference the sways make before doing the springs.
    I'm going this route very soon (eibach sway kit and kartboy endlinks); I'll let you know how it goes....if you don't beat me to it.
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    I started looking at swaybars and endlinks but I don't think that would address my biggest concern. While I don't like the body roll, that's less of an issue compared to the floaty-ness when hitting a bump or turning (or both at the same time). To me that's suspension not rigidity.

    I've talked myself out of springs...I just don't think I'll be happy with them since the struts would still stink. H&R coils seem to be the best fit for me...progressive spring rate, Bilstein struts, a 1.2+" drop, and what appears to be about the level of dampening I want.

    I suspect if I do coils I will eventually get sways too. But I think I'll be more pleased by just coilovers than doing both swaybars with maybe springs.

    Has anyone messed around with camber much? I think this might be the first car I've had where I think it could benefit from some adjustment. Or would sways pretty much take care of that not-feeling-planted feeling that I have?
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    I had some coilovers on my '08 WRX and the ride was too extreme for a street driven car. In general, coilovers are more suitable for a track car than a daily driven car. I got rid of the coilovers and went with the Koni inserts + GR sti springs/top hats, and it has been great. The ride feels sporty and composed vs the very focused feel of the coilovers.

    I checked the Koni product finder and it lists the same front inserts and rear shocks for '08 '09 '10 and '11 wrx.

    The minimal hassle of doing front inserts is well worth it despite some going for coilovers just to avoid doing a little work.

    Here's the koni product finder page.....

    Koni: KONl Finder

    have a read through this thread for more info...

    Koni inserts / shocks for '08 WRX?

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    I am having a problem deciding what is best. Springs Vs. coilovers. My cousin owns a 3rd generation Rx-7 and runs coilovers. He claims that it is fine for a DD. However, after reading what many of you have posted it seems that it may be a bit over kill for DD. As with the original poster, price is not going to stop me from the coilovers. I just want what is best. Plus I plan on tracking the car occasionally. Any farther input would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jvf4 View Post
    I am having a problem deciding what is best. Springs Vs. coilovers. My cousin owns a 3rd generation Rx-7 and runs coilovers. He claims that it is fine for a DD. However, after reading what many of you have posted it seems that it may be a bit over kill for DD. As with the original poster, price is not going to stop me from the coilovers. I just want what is best. Plus I plan on tracking the car occasionally. Any farther input would be appreciated.
    I've also had coil overs on several DD's -- they are definitely not over kill in terms of ride quality, if you get them set up with the correct spring rates/valving. I think when most say that coil overs are "over kill", they are referring to the cost given our intended use of the car -- daily driving. I'm definitely going the coil over route.

    Just my 2 cents

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    Thanks jack! That's what I plan on doing as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack(LA) View Post
    I've also had coil overs on several DD's -- they are definitely not over kill in terms of ride quality, if you get them set up with the correct spring rates/valving. I think when most say that coil overs are "over kill", they are referring to the cost given our intended use of the car -- daily driving. I'm definitely going the coil over route.

    Just my 2 cents

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    I'm also another recent owner of a 11 wrx hatch. My buddy works for ksport so he can get me 50% off theyre product. I'm not looking to track the car but I want to run summer tires with 18s on a 1inch drop in the summer. Then put the height back to OEM with winter tires on the stock rims. Ive put lowering springs on stock shocks before. my shocks were blown in 15k miles. Seems like coilovers with a drop are more reliable. Hence why I'd go that route.

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    Very nice. This morning I placed my order...

    H&R coilovers.

    No matter what else I build up or planned out...I always felt that I would be "most happy" with coilovers vs all other options. I'll need swaybars eventually but improving the ride quality is my #1 goal right now and the H&R's sound like a perfect fit.
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