So I went to the Dyno on friday and here's what I got on my xs450/avo400... 360whp, 302 ft-lbs @ 23psi on 93 octane
I had a few problems holding me back from making more power.
1) I had a huge leak at the flange to my external wastegate from my uppipe (probably due to blowing out the gasket on my way to the dyno :sadwave: ) This is without a doubt why my turbo is spooling so slowly right now (~700 rpms later than what I was getting before) After doing some reading apparently the gaskets that are supplied with the Tial wastegate are garbage (so i noticed). Tial themselves says to use the gaskets from the turbonetics unit, so i ordered those already.
2) I need colder plugs. Junior was pretty adamant about the fact that with 1 step colder plugs I could run more timing and pick up some big power up top aside from the power I would get from fixing the leak I have. The ej207 loves a lot of timing and I can't run it with the plugs I have. I ordered a set of NGK Iridiums in the 8 heat range. Should have those in soon.
Over all, I'm pretty happy as far as how things have progressed thus far. Having over 300whp at 8k rpms is rediculously fun. I can't wait to get my issues worked out and my ra gearset in!! :wiggles:
As far as power form the leak, it's reall hard to tell. It's very audible. I had walked in there aiming for 375whp and afterwards Junior was more than confident that I would easily get that when all was fixed up. We will see...
Were you getting detonation or any kind of misfiring up top with this tune? Seems like you should have been running more boost than just 23lbs on that turbo. Bummer about the plugs though, it must drive you crazy to be ALMOST there when once again a few little things hold you back.
The 8k powerband is awesome though, isn't it?! I could spend all day and night above 6krpm and never feel a drop off....it's amazing!
PS your AFR's look super safe! How are your injectors doing, any idea what kind of duty cycle they're at?
I've gotten my stock gears to hold at 341whp for quite a while, so I'm pretty sure I can manage to get the ra's to hold. People usually say the ra's are good for about 350whp so I'm not too far past that.
Timdog1650 said:
Were you getting detonation or any kind of misfiring up top with this tune? Seems like you should have been running more boost than just 23lbs on that turbo. Bummer about the plugs though, it must drive you crazy to be ALMOST there when once again a few little things hold you back.
I was getting some knock up high in the powerband, which is most likely a result of my plugs. That's on eof the reason I need colder plugs. I wanted to advance timing at least another degree before I started adding more boost. Once I get the issues sorted. I'll throw more at her.
It does suck being almost there, but even in this state the car absolutely rips! I get great pull from 5k to 8k (I need about 500 more rpms down low to really be happy), and the external wastegate holds boost very solid and boy does it sound mean!
You think this new gasket will give you 500rpm more to play with? I figure it should be good for a bit more boost down low....*ordered new plugs just now*
You think this new gasket will give you 500rpm more to play with? I figure it should be good for a bit more boost down low....*ordered new plugs just now*
How does the XS turbo close off the wastegate? Is it welded shut? Do you have any pictures of your wastegate setup, I see your running the ultimate uppipe, is there any fitment issues or fab work you had to do to get this to work with the turbo mounted in the stock location?
Also having the ej207 in are there any complaints? When are you seeing full boost?
How does the XS turbo close off the wastegate? Is it welded shut? Do you have any pictures of your wastegate setup, I see your running the ultimate uppipe, is there any fitment issues or fab work you had to do to get this to work with the turbo mounted in the stock location?
Also having the ej207 in are there any complaints? When are you seeing full boost?
You can put a couple of well placed welds on the wastegate flapper and it closes off the wastegate on the turbo so you can use the external. The fitment of the UR pipe is like stock, so as long as it clears you downpipe (doesn't clear most bellmouths) then you're fine. As far as the EJ207, they come stock with forged crank, pistons, rods and the heads are larger port with better/more aggressive cams.
You can put a couple of well placed welds on the wastegate flapper and it closes off the wastegate on the turbo so you can use the external. The fitment of the UR pipe is like stock, so as long as it clears you downpipe (doesn't clear most bellmouths) then you're fine. As far as the EJ207, they come stock with forged crank, pistons, rods and the heads are larger port with better/more aggressive cams.
I think that's just the printout. There's also no smoothing applied (which a lot of places put on). Junior had mentioned something about the jaggedness and timing but I missed what he said exactly...
I think that's just the printout. There's also no smoothing applied (which a lot of places put on). Junior had mentioned something about the jaggedness and timing but I missed what he said exactly...
Sickk. what turbo you using? and what sized injectors/fuel pump?
Yea, the tial gaskets do suck, but you really don't need it. .
I never ran one with my 35mm gate, but I do have one on my 38mm gate now. .