Why you may want to STAY AWAY from FP (Forced Performance) Turbo - IWSTI.com: Subaru STI Forums
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i have kept this hush-hush for a long time until after i was able to speak with my lawyer about it, but it seems more trouble, time, and money than it's worth considering i already wasted money on FP products, so wasting more would just be asinine.
the purpose of this thread is to show you all why i find FP to be a garbage company with garbage product and atrocious customer service.
all of the following is true:
September 1, 2007: driving up to CT with my aunt and uncle in his porsche, my cousin and his GF in his porsche turbo, me and my GF in my car, the FP 20G dies on the Hutch parkway. the turbo let go after a 4th gear pull with my cousin. once i get on the gas a little, i hear this horrific buzzing noise and feel like the car is in neutral - no power. i put on the flashers, pulled over, had my cousin and uncle each pull over. they came to the car to see what was up. i was convinced it was the turbo because of the buzzing noise. i was sure that it was the blades touching the sides of the housing since nothing else to my knowledge could produce that same kind of sound under the same conditions - then there was a bit of smoke coming from the turbo itself. the weekend was completely ruined. i turned the car around and drove it home while the rest of my family went up to CT.
September 10, 2007: the car is flatbedded up to XX Tuning so that they can diagnose and repair the car. i get the following pictures sent to me after the turbo is removed from the car:
after all is said and done, i made the mistake of buying another FP turbo. this time it was a FP Green. at this point i figured, it was just one bad turbo and that since i had purchased it on July 19, 2006 - that maybe it was just "bad luck" on my part. i was wrong.
September 13, 2007: the FP Green was installed and tuned at XX Tuning. as you all know, XX Tuning is a magnificent shop with magnificent technicians that know everything about our cars. Chris tuned the car. 18 PSI on pump - 23 PSI on pump and meth.
November 3, 2007: i drive into Manhattan to pick my cousin up from school (Columbia University) and noticed a slight burnt oil smell from the car on the way in, but nothing major - just hints of the smell.
on my way into Manhattan, i was able to boost the car (18 PSI max) a few times, last time was on the Triboro bridge. as i'm driving through Harlem and stopping at the traffic lights, i start to see hints of smoke from the hood scoop. it slowly keeps getting worse.
after driving back to LI and stopping at a local diner, i popped the hood and saw some smoke coming from the area of the turbo. at this point it was the only place smoke was coming from.
after my cousin and i had a late breakfast, we got into the car. when i started it, the exhaust smoked very badly. as i was backing out of my parking spot, a very thick cloud of smoke was behind the car - like embarrassing thick. i felt like the smoke machines at a Nine Inch Nails concert were attached to my car.
we stopped in at Barnes and Noble to pick up some reading and i asked my cousin to rev the engine a little while i tried snapping off some pictures of the smoke. i wasn't able to get a good shot of it with my phone, but this is what i was able to get:
safe to say, i was pretty pissed off. i had a brand new FP Green only two months at 18 PSI before it committed suicide. i hadn't even run the car on meth since it was tuned. is it possible that all these signs are pointing to yet another GARBAGE FP turbo? yep. all signs are pointing to Failboat Performance.
November 7, 2007: i drive up to XX Tuning in vacuum. let me tell you - it's difficult driving an STi in vacuum that long (~1.7 hours) - especially when driving through cities and long stretches of uphill on the highway. i get to XX, they quickly take the car in the back and perform a list of things on the car that i had asked to do (coolant flush, motor oil and filter, tranny/front diff oil, rear diff oil, goodridge SS lines, super blue fluid). then onto diagnosing the turbo.
at first Jack thought that maybe my dual catch-can kit was not adequate enough to vent the crankcase pressure since there was almost no oil in the catch cans. he figured that there must have been a ton of oil in the APS TMIC. i let him know that when i originally bought the car, the first drive i took with it was a wicked beating on the way home. i told him the car really never had oil consumption problems and that if it does now, it must be the turbo.
after examining everything, he decided to turn the car on. the exhaust gases were TERRIBLE. blue-ish and chalk-ish. Jack said that he doesn't remember seeing exhaust that color nor with that smell (Jack is pretty amazing, too). we later realize it was the coolant and oil mixing in the Failboat Performance turbo.
anyway - he takes the car for a rip - comes back, tells me the motor seems mint. since it was still pulling over 20 vacuum it added to the indication that the engine was still good and he is convinced now it's the turbo.
we rip the turbo out, and guess what... the shaft play on it is about 3 times WORSE than my dead 20G!! to say the least, i was pissed off.
i had brought my stock VF39 with me and they installed that. i can't believe how fast the VF39 delivers power, but i had forgotten how weak it was on the road! definitely a weaksauce turbo on the road/highway, but pretty amazing for auto-X. i was kinda glad to be stage 2 "+" protuned again just to be reminded of how the VF39 is and how well made it is. something i was not inclined to with an FP turbo in my car.
after all this, i decided it was time to contact FP directly.
the following is all what was sent/received - with only personal information removed: