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    06 stage 4 possibilities?

    Ok so im running like a custom put together turboback exhaust. i just ordered the Cobb AP for my 06 wrx, and ill finally be at stage 2!!!
    now my questions are what sort of setup should i get to move on to newer stage ugrades and what sort of gains should i see with the following upgrades. Im still kinda new on these stage upgrades and i need to get some professionals POV before i do anything else.


    Stage 3:
    Catback + DP
    UTEC(or im guessing AP is good)
    FMIC
    Intake

    Stage 4:
    Catback + DP
    UTEC(or im guessing AP is good)
    FMIC
    Intake
    Fuel Pump
    Injectors
    Turbo.


    am i right so far?
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    I think that the utec stages follow Cobb stages meaning what you have listed as stg 3 is really stg 2. I wouldnt recommend a FMIC for the stock turbo. It's not needed and will increase lag a bit.

    After going stage 2 if you get tired of the stock turbo I'd recommend getting a 20g turbo, walbro f/p, upgrade your injectors, and either get a FMIC or a larger TMIC. The 20g is probaly the best turbo for your car IMHO in regards to power and lag. Good luck .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 302@12psi
    I think that the utec stages follow Cobb stages meaning what you have listed as stg 3 is really stg 2. I wouldnt recommend a FMIC for the stock turbo. It's not needed and will increase lag a bit.

    After going stage 2 if you get tired of the stock turbo I'd recommend getting a 20g turbo, walbro f/p, upgrade your injectors, and either get a FMIC or a larger TMIC. The 20g is probaly the best turbo for your car IMHO in regards to power and lag. Good luck .

    i thought stage 2 for the 06's is turboback exhaust and AP, for cobb.....
    along with the other mods it would be stage 3 after that
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    Each brand has its own specific stages. Cobb stage 2 isn't the same as Turboxs stage 2. The numbers really don't matter though. I also would advise against the FMIC on the stock turbine, you're really just creating lag. If/when you swap your turbo that would be the time to get a new intercooler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOOFAST88
    Each brand has its own specific stages. Cobb stage 2 isn't the same as Turboxs stage 2. The numbers really don't matter though. I also would advise against the FMIC on the stock turbine, you're really just creating lag. If/when you swap your turbo that would be the time to get a new intercooler.
    so i could get the other stuff in stage 3 after i get my AP and just call my setup stage 3 but not cobb stage 3 right
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    What turbo is the stock turbo on a 2006 WRX?

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    TD04 - same turbo, just less psi due to the larger displacement.

    Cobb AP/TurboXS UTEC/Ecutek Stages
    • Stage 1 = Reflash
    • Stage 2 = Reflash, TBE, UP (UP needed for 02-05 WRX only)
    • Stage 2.5 = Cobb Reflash, TBE, UP, STi Pink Injectors, VF-Turbo (Large TMIC, and Fuel Pump - NOT required for Cobb Stg2.5)
    • Stage 3 = Reflash, TBE, UP, Larger Top Mount Intercooler
    • Stage 4 = Reflash, TBE, UP, Larger Top Mount Intercooler, STi Pink Injectors, VF-Turbo, (Fuel pump is required for UTEC and Ecutek only)
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    You can disregard the up-pipe. The '06 doesn't have a cat-ed up-pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOOFAST88
    You can disregard the up-pipe. The '06 doesn't have a cat-ed up-pipe.
    Thanks...corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D0WNxSH1FT
    TD04 - same turbo, just less psi due to the larger displacement.

    Cobb AP/TurboXS UTEC/Ecutek Stages
    • Stage 1 = Reflash
    • Stage 2 = Reflash, TBE, UP (UP needed for 02-05 WRX only)
    • Stage 2.5 = Cobb Reflash, TBE, UP, STi Pink Injectors, VF-Turbo (Large TMIC, and Fuel Pump - NOT required for Cobb Stg2.5)
    • Stage 3 = Reflash, TBE, UP, Larger Top Mount Intercooler
    • Stage 4 = Reflash, TBE, UP, Larger Top Mount Intercooler, STi Pink Injectors, VF-Turbo, (Fuel pump is required for UTEC and Ecutek only)

    ok so realisticly for me to be at stage 3, since i have a TBE and Cobb AP, all i need is a better TMIC and Injectors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06WhiteWRX
    ok so realisticly for me to be at stage 3, since i have a TBE and Cobb AP, all i need is a better TMIC and Injectors?
    No.

    Stage 3 = Reflash, TBE, UP (02-05 wrx), Larger Top Mount Intercooler
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    I thought stage 3 for the 2006 was TMIC upgrade, VF 39 or 18G (TD06 I think), and the appropriate COBB map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D0WNxSH1FT
    No.

    Stage 3 = Reflash, TBE, UP (02-05 wrx), Larger Top Mount Intercooler
    ok ok i think i got it, sorry if i sound kinda new at this cuz i am.

    i still dont understand why cobbs stage 2.5 is so close to a stage 4, just missing a top mount...

    so whats next for my mods are:

    injectors,
    turbo,
    and front mount...

    if i do it in that order than i can skip the TMIC and just get a FMIC, aftrer the turbo upgrade and ill be at stage 4 right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06WhiteWRX
    if i do it in that order than i can skip the TMIC and just get a FMIC, aftrer the turbo upgrade and ill be at stage 4 right?
    You should really do it all at once. Turbo + intercooler + injectors + fuel pump. Minus the fuel pump if you're sticking with Cobb.
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    Here are the map notes from COBB's web site.

    http://www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/access...20ProTUNER.pdf
    http://www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/access...20ProTUNER.pdf

    And unless you are going 20g or bigger you don't need the injectors and with a 20g you only really need them if you are having it tuned aggresively. And +1 on doing it all at the same time so you only need one tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisCJ99 View Post
    205 whp on a STOCK wrx??? I find that to be a bit hard to believe. My 2006 WRX ran 188 whp with Injen CAI, HKS BOV, HKS Downpipe and HKS carbon ti exhaust... How can a STOCK WRX run 205 whp??? I'd like to see dyno sheets to back that one up...

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