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This is a discussion on Upgrade opinions within the New Member Hangout forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Also, assuming that your car is stock, the very first upgrade you should do it a new catless uppipe. The ...

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    Also, assuming that your car is stock, the very first upgrade you should do it a new catless uppipe. The stock one has a cat on it and is known for coming apart and destroying turbo's. This upgrade really wont do much for you performance wise, but is a must for your year wrx. You will not need a tune for the new uppipe unless you decide to do an uppipe for an external wastegate setup, which you will need a good bit more supporting mods and a tune to do.
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    This brings me to a few final questions... Will the tune and turbo upgrades require me to run different fuel than I currently am? Lastly, I understand the concept of a turboback exhaust, but is it possible to have a turboback straight pipe? How does that work with catbacks and straight pipes and turbobacks? I would ideally like to go straight pipe as long as this works with my setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stage02WRX View Post
    This brings me to a few final questions... Will the tune and turbo upgrades require me to run different fuel than I currently am?
    What fuel are you currently using?

    Use the fuel that is specified by your tuner or in the map notes.
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    Why strait pipe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    What fuel are you currently using?

    Use the fuel that is specified by your tuner or in the map notes.
    This, you should at least be running 91 octane in your car right now with the stock tune. Then once you get tuned it depends on 2 things, one is what fuel grades are available in your area, and second is your tuner/map requirement. 93 octane is the most popular, but if you have access to E85 look into it bc you will make a substantial amount more power with E85 over 93. But will have to beef up your fuel components. (i.e. bigger fuel pump and injectors)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtk07 View Post
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    Because I like the sound of straight pipe. Why not straight pipe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stage02WRX View Post
    Because I like the sound of straight pipe. Why not straight pipe?
    Way too loud and overbearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stage02WRX View Post
    Because I like the sound of straight pipe. Why not straight pipe?
    Yeah, make sure you ride in one before you make that switch.

    You may like the sound for a spirited drive, but living with a straight pipe day-in and day-out may become frustrating.
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    Buy an exhaust that has some R+D into it. Invidia is an awesome brand. I have had invidia on 2 of 3 wrx's and the fitment and sound are awesome. Realistically speaking, if you really want to make it close to the 300whp mark you need to do ALOT more research, as this platform of car is all new to you. Make a list, once you make it, research each part. Your list should end up looking something like this.

    -downpipe
    -catback
    -uppipe for external wastegate
    -tial 38mm wastegate
    -new turbo
    -750/1000cc injectors (depending on what fuel you use 750 for 93, 1000 for E85)
    -255lph fuel pump
    -intake
    -bigger turbo inlet
    -electronic boost control solenoid
    -pro tune

    This is just a recommendation for you to get to have an idea on what its going to take to get you to the hp goals you are looking for. I would say you could get all of that for around 2k to 2.5k if you buy the turbo used and maybe a few other things. If you go brand new everything you are easily looking at roughly 4k.
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    Yeah an 02 wrx isn't an ideal car to easily get to 300 whp. I would actually start with a compression test to make sure your engine can even handle mods and then once you start adding power you need to figure out which transmission you have.

    You have to realize most likely your car only has somewhere between 180-190 whp right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lytlec View Post
    Yeah an 02 wrx isn't an ideal car to easily get to 300 whp. I would actually start with a compression test to make sure your engine can even handle mods and then once you start adding power you need to figure out which transmission you have.

    You have to realize most likely your car only has somewhere between 180-190 whp right now.
    It's also not that difficult either. Honestly, it probably took me less than $3k to hit 300whp in derp burgeye.
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    Well I'm trying to relate it to the op in relation to the cobalt. It seems like Subarus are harder to make power compared to every other car ever made. Lol. That's what I Meant.
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    I am really glad I signed up for this forum, you guys have helped me out ALOT! Everyone is so supportive and constructive! On a complete side note though, what does it mean to get your car chipped? Is this a form of flashing? I just keep hearing the term lately and don't quite know what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stage02WRX View Post
    I am really glad I signed up for this forum, you guys have helped me out ALOT! Everyone is so supportive and constructive! On a complete side note though, what does it mean to get your car chipped? Is this a form of flashing? I just keep hearing the term lately and don't quite know what it is.
    Sort of. It's a term that doesn't really apply to modern Subarus, or many other modern cars, but people sometimes use it in error when they mean reflashing. It refers back to when you would have to literally install a new microchip into the car's computer (ECU). I haven't really researched it hugely, but I believe something like that is how you tune, say, VW products. I say this because I know that to tune my current car, I have to take it to a shop and they have to physically open up the ECU.

    Long story short, chipping is a reference to another way to modify the car's computer program, or map. For Subarus, you don't need to go that route and if you hear it used in reference to a wrx/sti, then it's someone who doesn't know the correct terms for things and probably needs some education.
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