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    New member, a few questions.

    Hello everyone! I'm excited to be here. This seems like a great forum, and I've read threads on here in the past, but just now joined. I'm currently serving in the United States Air Force and live in Warminster, PA. I like to go driving, shooting, play video games (especially Forza), socialize, drink scotch and smoke cigars

    I love Subaru and have always wanted a WRX/STi. Unfortunately however, I currently drive an Impreza 2.5i Premium - in auto. I leased the vehicle, and my lease is up in January. Right after that, I am deploying. My plans after I get back from the deployment is to buy a WRX or STi. The problem is that I am quite rusty with driving manual. I found that out today after I test drove a used 2013 STi.

    I learned how to drive manual close to 3 years ago on a '94 Jeep Wrangler. I asked my friend to teach me so we went out to a parking lot, and I finally got the hang of it. Within an hour I was having a blast cruising around the windy roads in the area. The same day, I went to Fred Beans Mitsubishi in Doylestown to look at cars (this was right before I got my Impreza, while I was still looking at what to get). I was looking at the Lancer EVOs they had there (I know, this is a Subaru forum, but bear with me), and the salesman asked if I wanted to test drive one. Of course I was more than excited to do that, so he pulled one around. It was manual, and I was a bit nervous since I just learned that same day. I told him I just learned this morning, and he said no worries, how often do you get this chance? Awesome salesman. So I got in and took off, and didn't stall once. I had a blast driving it around, up and down 6/11 letting that turbo loose.

    Other than that day, I've only driven manual a few other times. A few more times in the Jeep, once in my friend's beater 99 Hyundai Accent, and the most recent, about 6 months ago, moving my Fireteam Leader's Volkswagen from one parking lot to another. I didn't stall any of those.

    However today was different. I told the salesman I was pretty rusty as it's been awhile since I drove manual, and he said not to worry. Once he moved the car, we got in, he went over the SI Drive and DCCD, and then said, "Let it rip."

    I stalled it twice.

    On the third try I got it moving, up to the exit onto 6/11. While attempting to turn right onto 6/11, I stalled it a few more times. The salesman suggested that he take over for now. We did just that, and then I suggested we go to a parking lot where it's level, I'm going straight, and I don't have to worry about traffic. He agreed, so we went. I stalled it a few more times, then finally got it rolling. I made it around the parking lot till I had to stop at a stop sign, where I stalled it a few more times. He then said "You're going to hate me." We switched and he drove it onto the highway and let it rip, showing me what the car can do.

    I was pretty embarrassed. I knew I was rusty, but I didn't think it would be that bad. I'm confident I was babying it too much and not giving it enough gas. It was a nice car and I was just being too careful.

    Okay, that was a really in depth story. Sorry for the Great Wall of Text. To those of you that read my horror story, thank you. If you didn't,

    TL;DR - I haven't driven manual in awhile, and failed an attempt to test drive a used 2013 STi.

    Now the issue I'm having is how to go about getting comfortable with manual again. I don't really talk to my friend anymore that taught me, and none of my family members drive a manual. It's pretty hard to find a friend that has a manual, and harder to convince a friend to let me practice on it. I don't think rental places really stock manuals anymore. The only other thing I can think of is to either pay to go to a driving school that teaches manual, or buy a really cheap beater. Both would cost some money that I just don't feel like blowing. Other than that, it's buy an STi or WRX and attempt to get it from the dealer to my house, and then probably replace the clutch.

    Any suggestions on what I can do? Thanks in advance.

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    Practice makes perfect, id suggest picking up a beater for a few weeks/months to get use to a standard as a daily driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agonistt View Post
    Practice makes perfect, id suggest picking up a beater for a few weeks/months to get use to a standard as a daily driver.
    I really don't want to buy a beater because then I would have to insure it and have it pass inspection to drive it on the road, then find a way to get rid of it when I'm done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyP View Post
    I really don't want to buy a beater because then I would have to insure it and have it pass inspection to drive it on the road, then find a way to get rid of it when I'm done with it.
    If buying a beater isn't a realistic option, then why would you mention buying a beater as an option?

    Also, if you can't drive stick... why would you buy one..

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    Trial by fire. Buy the Sti and you'll have to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agonistt View Post
    Practice makes perfect, id suggest picking up a beater for a few weeks/months to get use to a standard as a daily driver.
    Even though there is added expense here, this is probably the best option.

    Several years ago, one of my friends wanted to learn to drive a stick, so we found him an 80s Nissan for under $800. I went with him to pick it up and drove it home for him. He drove it for a few months (he also had a Mazda that was his DD), and learned to drive it. Then his dad (who is one of the worst drivers ever) crashed it.

    Moral of the story: The beater was a total POS, but my friend learned to drive stick on a car he didn't care about ruining. He has since had several manual cars, and now has a manual 2011 Impreza.
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    If you get a beater, pay no more than what you would get for it from the scrap yard. Consider taxes etc as the cost of learning.

    Or just get a dang STi and take it easy until you're comfortable. It dosn't take that long to get good enough to drive again. I learned manual in a parking lot one day in a couple hours, then my dad made me drive home. And then everytime he picked me up on Friday after school, or soccer practice after he got off work, he made me drive home. I hated it. I was 15 driving a pickup truck. It was the most difficult manual to I've ever driven aside from a 3 axle dump truck.

    Most of it is all in your mind. After I settled down and relaxed, I learned much faster and became confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyP View Post
    I really don't want to buy a beater because then I would have to insure it and have it pass inspection to drive it on the road, then find a way to get rid of it when I'm done with it.
    You're in Warminster...you can drive anything on 4...maybe even 3 wheels, and nobody is going to give a rat's ass
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    And coming from owning 2 STIs in my life...getting used to manual again on any other car makes no bearing on what an STI is like. It engages hard and can be very notchy if you try and shift it like you shift a Honda Civic.

    For granted, it's one of the strongest, tightest, and more difficult clutches to operate...you just gotta figure out the engagement points and go from there. It will be a lot easier when you buy the car, and drive it at your own pace without worrying about the salesman and him looking over your shoulder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wreckingball man View Post
    If you get a beater, pay no more than what you would get for it from the scrap yard. Consider taxes etc as the cost of learning.

    Or just get a dang STi and take it easy until you're comfortable. It dosn't take that long to get good enough to drive again. I learned manual in a parking lot one day in a couple hours, then my dad made me drive home. And then everytime he picked me up on Friday after school, or soccer practice after he got off work, he made me drive home. I hated it. I was 15 driving a pickup truck. It was the most difficult manual to I've ever driven aside from a 3 axle dump truck.

    Most of it is all in your mind. After I settled down and relaxed, I learned much faster and became confident.
    +1 Confidence. You've driven a stick, so you have the fundamentals down. Just learn the engagement points. You'll catch on quick. btw wreckingball I learned on a old Truck myself what a bitch ...and at 15 .... lol I relate so I have to laugh.
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    Thanks for the input guys. I think when I get back from the deployment I'm gonna find a friend with a manual or do to a driving school for a day to familiarize myself again, then go test drive whichever STi I'm going to get and just buy it. I'm sure when I'm by myself and at my own pace and don't have the dealer watching me, I should get the hang of it pretty quick. I felt pretty rushed during the test drive.

    I mean, after all, I did learn the first time on a Wrangler in about 2 hours, and then drove an EVO GSR without stalling, so I think with a few hours to get the feel for it I should be fine.

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    Good luck Anthony!

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    Get the sti home the next day get up early when there is no traffic drive it local for as long as you can after 2 hours you will be an expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadster20th View Post
    Get the sti home the next day get up early when there is no traffic drive it local for as long as you can after 2 hours you will be an expert.
    That's probably what I'm gonna do.

    On another note, my girlfriend is more than likely going to be buying a manual as her second car. Looks like i just found out where to get my manual practice

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