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    Would stage 2 compromise a 2008 wrx's reliability?

    I'm looking to pick up an 08 wrx (yes I know 09 is better, but for $4000 less I'm getting an 08 probably) would putting a catted downpipe, and a stage 2 tune on it cause problems? I want this thing to be reliable as possible, but I also want it to feel a little quicker, maybe be able to keep up with stock 09's. My main question is though, will these 2 little mods hurt it's reliability or cause engine problems?

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    Generally speaking the reliability of Stg2 is tried and true. However, that depends on your tuner and the current condition of the car and the driver

    Google 2008 Stg2 WRX reliability....................I bet that will get you what you need.

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    Thanks, I'd be using the Cobb AP and their "off the shelf stage 2 tune" and a catted downpipe, to hopefully keep everything safe. This is all in theory, I needa sell my POS Jeep and pick up the suby first!

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    Do some searching, TONS of us on stg2 for long periods with no issues.

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    It all depends on the parts and the tune really. I would not recommend an OTS tune for many reasons, reliability being one of the big ones.

    Putting a better flowing exhaust on only hurts the car if the tune doesn't properly account for it.
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    Ditch the Cobb, get opensource protune.

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    Yes to Open Source!!! OTS maps are canned solutions for a very dynamic variable...your car! They work yes, but they are not optimized for the individual car the way OS tunes are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GODMODE View Post
    Thanks, I'd be using the Cobb AP and their "off the shelf stage 2 tune" and a catted downpipe
    Coob's map notes state that the requirement for stage 2 on a 2008 is a full turboback exhaust, not just a downpipe.

    Edit: Err...Cobb's maps say that too. I definitely wouldn't trust Coob...whoever they are.
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    As a general rule, a decent S2 tune shouldn't create any issue that wasn't already there to show itself. For example, if the motor was already on its way out, it may speed it up a bit, but S2 power mods shouldn't be enough to be the cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by MercRising
    Yes to Open Source!!! OTS maps are canned solutions for a very dynamic variable...your car! They work yes, but they are not optimized for the individual car the way OS tunes are.
    There are OTS maps for both Cobb and OpenECU
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    As a general rule, a decent S2 tune shouldn't create any issue that wasn't already there to show itself. For example, if the motor was already on its way out, it may speed it up a bit, but S2 power mods shouldn't be enough to be the cause.
    Was just gonna say basically this. If you continue to take care of your car and not beat the piss out of it, no reason why it shouldn't remain reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    As a general rule, a decent S2 tune shouldn't create any issue that wasn't already there to show itself. For example, if the motor was already on its way out, it may speed it up a bit, but S2 power mods shouldn't be enough to be the cause.



    There are OTS maps for both Cobb and OpenECU
    Agreed, but the open source process generally involves you and your tuner making a few revisions right? You start at OTS and end at a semi custom open source tune. Whereas with straight OTS maps from say Cobb, you get what you get, right?

    Honest questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercRising View Post
    Agreed, but the open source process generally involves you and your tuner making a few revisions right? You start at OTS and end at a semi custom open source tune. Whereas with straight OTS maps from say Cobb, you get what you get, right?

    Honest questions.
    Yeah it depends who makes your maps. Perrin has done 3 revisions for me on my stage 2 tune, but it's certainly not as customized as a protune would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11blackSTi View Post
    Yeah it depends who makes your maps. Perrin has done 3 revisions for me on my stage 2 tune.
    Learn something new everyday! Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercRising View Post
    Agreed, but the open source process generally involves you and your tuner making a few revisions right? You start at OTS and end at a semi custom open source tune. Whereas with straight OTS maps from say Cobb, you get what you get, right?

    Honest questions.
    You pretty much get it...but its not really an OTS tune anymore at that point...and generally yield better results than a simple OTS tune.
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    so with open source I just need a tactrics cable? I've been readin up on it a little but I'm still lost to this.. I'm used to building suspension on Jeeps all this tuning and exhaust work and turbo stuff is new to me haha. On another note, if I wanted to run straight pipes for a bit, would this hurt the car? Or would I need a custom tune to run it? This is all in theory like I said it'll be a month before I can get a car, but as soon as I do I'd like to jump in feet first

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