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This is a discussion on got my first oil change castrol oil synthetic @ 2707 miles within the New Member Hangout forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by etnpnys That's kinda messed up, isn't it? Put out a TSB that nobody knows how to find, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by etnpnys View Post
    That's kinda messed up, isn't it? Put out a TSB that nobody knows how to find, and then hold them to it and refuse to work on a motor from an owner that can't find them or didn't see them anyway?

    My friggin manual says 7500, and I plan on 5,000 intervals. My car is 4 days old and they can't gimme the correct information?
    Welcome to Subaru, if they can deny a warranty in any way shape of form, they will. Change your oil every 3,750 miles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 93zxdett View Post
    http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d93/93zxdett/TSB.png

    Not completely true. Logged on to Alldata for TSB's after reading this and found this. BTW, no current TSB's released for 2012 WRXs or STi's to the aftermarket as of yet. I'll call Subaru tomorrow as I need to order something for a customers car anyways. Appears though that prior to 2011, it was required every 3 months or 3750 miles. Now it has reverted back to 7500 miles. With that said, as someone in the industry, I'll do it at 3k-3500 miles and ONLY synthetic.
    It is completely true, I am also in the industry and own a 2011 WRX that was DENIED WARRANTY COVERAGE for this very reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 93zxdett View Post
    Agreed.

    To EA126405, a TSB technically over rides an owners manual. With that said, there is no TSB pertaining to the 2011-2012 model years according to my systems (both mitchel1 and alldata). With that said, you are correct, if you followed an owners manual recommendations, SoA would likely still cover it as long as it is within the warranty period.
    Wrong. SoA told me on Dec 4th told me that the bulletin did in fact pertain to the 2011 turbocharged vehicles and would also to the 2012 turbocharged vehicles as nothing has changed in the actual reason the bulletin exhists. The bulletin exhists because of the oil strainer in the feed line to the turbo charger. If the oil is past the 3,750 mile interval they have seen the oil get to a contamination level high enough to begin clogging the oil strainer in the feed line. It has nothing to do with how good of oil is in the motor, it relates specifically to the strainer and how an oil doing its job can easily clog the strainer and destroy the turbo/motor.


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    OK so now I'm confused. What is the correct interval for, say, a 2012 WRX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    OK so now I'm confused. What is the correct interval for, say, a 2012 WRX?
    The correct service interval for a 2012 WRX according to the subaru technical service bulletin published in 2007 is 3 months of 3,750 miles. The owners manual does state that the interval is 7,500 miles but Subaru of America claims the TSB overrides the published data in the owners manual.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    OK so now I'm confused. What is the correct interval for, say, a 2012 WRX?
    My manual states 7,500 miles. Then has section saying 3,750 if the vehicle is used for severe use. My previous vehicle had the same interval but gave a list at what was considered severe and it was pretty much everything other than highway driving.
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    I'm still curious about this topic as well. A TSB that was published in 2007 (5 years ago) vs. a manual that was published 1 year to present. To me it sounds like the new published documents should override an old document. If Subaru is stupid enough to give me and other owners wrong information then I think its just right for them to fix everyone's blown turbo for current cars 2011-12(I have not heard of any issues yet).

    They should release a new TSB to correct the new documents which they have not yet done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    That is my point yes. There is no reason to change at 3K and if "cheap insurance" is the reason then there's no reason to not change earlier. The extreme would be daily I suppose.

    On the other hand using oil analyses provides a rational approach to oil changes, because there are data available to which one can refer. In my particular case with my use pattern and my chosen oil in my specific motor, for example, 7.5K intervals are no problem. Granted, I used to change at 5K -- but not for insurance, since there is no benefit in changing oil that works fine and replacing it with other oil that works fine; I did it so that I can remember the intervals easier (5, 10, 15 and so on).

    Different strokes.
    so when do you change yours exactly, ive seen so many numbers thrown out im a little confused.
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    Just change ur oil every 3750 and make sure you use subaru full synthetic 5w-30 oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHP View Post
    I'm still curious about this topic as well. A TSB that was published in 2007 (5 years ago) vs. a manual that was published 1 year to present. To me it sounds like the new published documents should override an old document. If Subaru is stupid enough to give me and other owners wrong information then I think its just right for them to fix everyone's blown turbo for current cars 2011-12(I have not heard of any issues yet).

    They should release a new TSB to correct the new documents which they have not yet done.
    Absolutely! Which is exactly what I brought to bat with me in my case, however they seriously do not care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeper sti View Post
    Just change ur oil every 3750 and make sure you use subaru full synthetic 5w-30 oil
    This is exactly what needs to happen, the unfortunate is that it really should be every 7500 like the manual states as subaru claims to be the green company they are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rque View Post
    Absolutely! Which is exactly what I brought to bat with me in my case, however they seriously do not care.
    Was this the issue regarding your STi? They initially blamed your turbo for making horrific noises yet it was actually your timing belt? I'm unsure about the conclusion of that case.
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    To be clear: when I change my oil and with what is NOT relevant for anyone under warranty.

    Under warranty, do EXACTLY as SOA instructs.

    The issue is, what exactly is that? It would seem the 3K is warranty-safe so even if the oil and motor are fine, warranty needs come first. Shame but true it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KHP View Post
    Was this the issue regarding your STi? They initially blamed your turbo for making horrific noises yet it was actually your timing belt? I'm unsure about the conclusion of that case.
    2011 wrx sedan base model. Timing belt was replaced $700 some odd dollars later out of MY pocket.


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    Ok just to throw out my number. My last oil change was ~7500 miles. My previous oil changes were less 3750 miles. I've done multiple UOA's and it seems like my car handles the longer interval just fine. This does not mean everyone should do it.
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